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View Poll Results: Should assaults on people wearing MAGA hats be covered under enacted hate crime laws?
Yes 110 66.27%
No 54 32.53%
Undecided 2 1.20%
Voters: 166. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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That's a deranged comment. Its a patriotic hat.

Get help.
The MAGA hat is not patriotic. It is a symbol of being a Trump fan.

America was MORE great before Trump came on the scene. All he has done is sow division and hate. Many of his supporters, especially those wearing the MAGA hats, espouse the same.
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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You must be reading “revised history.” The Emancipation Proclamation was enacted by Abraham Lincoln in 1863. The last politician espousing White Supremacy was George Wallace.

Actually, deep down Donald Trump is a White Supremacist.
Per the bolded --- So now you're a mind reader?

You must be a mind reader because you have no proof to back up your bogus assertion.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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Per the bolded --- So now you're a mind reader?

You must be a mind reader because you have no proof to back up your bogus assertion.
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Trump is not hard to read. You can just follow his many crazy hand gestures!

(Or read the list of symptoms of a Narcissist’s personality. P.S. He has every symptom.)
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Assault is Assault and it's a crime. Not sure why we have to have a separate category of assaults for "hate crimes." Judges already have discretion in the sentencing phase to adjust the punishment of those who's motives are revealed to be bigoted.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I'm a Trump supporter who wears my hat around but it's not a hate crime, just an act of political violence. A hate crime is against someone's unchangable characteristics like race, ethnicity, gender, etc (though Caitlin Jenner beleives gender can be changed.....)
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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It is motivated by hatred after all.

I would say no, but only because I don't believe in the concept of "hate crime" laws to begin with. If we're going to have hate crime laws though, perhaps it should apply to people who are assaulted due to wearing a political logo as well, so I'll answer yes...as long as their are hate crime laws it ought to be covered.

NOTHING should be a "hate crime". The concept of a hate crime deals with some thoughts which are considered unacceptable and therefore illegal. If someone has that thought while committing an encroachment upon the rights or property of another, punish them for their encroachment, but NEVER, in a free country where we have natural rights including the right to own our own body, mind and thoughts, punish a person for what they think or believe. To do so is antithetical to LIBERTY.


But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.

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Old 03-15-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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It is motivated by hatred after all.

I would say no, but only because I don't believe in the concept of "hate crime" laws to begin with. If we're going to have hate crime laws though, perhaps it should apply to people who are assaulted due to wearing a political logo as well, so I'll answer yes...as long as their are hate crime laws it ought to be covered.
Why does it only protect those wearing MAGA hats? What about Yes We Can pins etc?
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: California
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You'll never convince me that "hate crimes" or "hate speech" are anything more than tools with which progressives try to bludgeon their critics with. There is just NO SUCH THING.
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:08 PM
 
Location: New York
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That 1/3rd of people in here voted NO is isane. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It is motivated by hatred after all.

I would say no, but only because I don't believe in the concept of "hate crime" laws to begin with. If we're going to have hate crime laws though, perhaps it should apply to people who are assaulted due to wearing a political logo as well, so I'll answer yes...as long as their are hate crime laws it ought to be covered.
I disagree about the concept of hate crime's nonexistence, but I don't think wearing a MAGA hat constitutes a hate crime.

In fact, I believe no apparel anyone wears- a hajib, a Jewish skull cap or one of the Orthodox Jewish hats, a ball cap, a cowboy hat, or a fedora constitutes a hate crime. Neither does any other apparel item.

I believe everyone should be able wear anything they want unmolested and without being charged with a hate crime for wearing it.

The only limits I would impose are those for sanitary reasons and basic human decency.
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