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Old 03-24-2019, 10:34 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You can say it as much as you want and say it in any color you want, still does not change the fact of what mueller said.....now listen carefully and comprehend....anything else that stems from this now closed investigation....great...let the chips fall where they may.....<<<<<You do understand what "let the chips fall" means, yes?
Yeah, I understand quite fully - DO YOU?
It sounds like you are pinning your hopes on some kind of charges against Clinton, Obama or other Democrats - well good luck with that. There is ZERO evidence Mueller moved ANYWHERE in that direction - despite what some stupid opinion-blogs have claimed.

Ken

 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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So now that the Mueller investigation of the Trump admin is over-can we get on with an actual investigation into the real corruption that took place in the '16 election?

Paying an operative to generate a false "dossier" to be used for campaign purposes

The use of said dossier by the Obama administration to spy on the Trump campaign, on his family and his friends

The corruption in the DNC that defied the will of the voters and gave the nomination to Hillary over Sanders (campaign spending/support/the debate questions being given to Hill, etc)

The interaction of the Clinton campaign with Ukraine

The actions of top members of the DOJ under Obama to influence a presidential election

The actions of many of those same members to undermine the admin of a sitting pres

The actions of members of the Democratic party to illegally meet with foreign leaders and manipulate events in a way counter to the interest of the United States. At the least we have Logan act violations...if not treason

An investigation into the hundreds of millions of dollars "donated" to the Clinton foundation while Hill was SOS-and the influence on trade deals and sanctions

The leaking of confidential FISA information to the media

etc, etc
That's NOT gonna happen - mainly because your claims are based on BS.

Ken
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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That's NOT gonna happen - mainly because your claims are based on BS.

Ken

Now this is a funny quote, the entire russian collusion was based on BS....
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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Also, why did the obama admin tell his IT staff to stand down when they found out about russian meddling?
Because they assumed (incorrectly) that the American people wouldn't be stupid enough to elect Trump even WITH his help from the Russians.

Ken
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Now this is a funny quote, the entire russian collusion was based on BS....
Tell that to the folks who were INDICTED.


Ken
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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Yeah, I understand quite fully - DO YOU?
It sounds like you are pinning your hopes on some kind of charges against Clinton, Obama or other Democrats - well good luck with that. There is ZERO evidence Mueller moved ANYWHERE in that direction - despite what some stupid opinion-blogs have claimed.

Ken

I DO, but you seem not to, no matter how many times I've said it.


Let the chips fall.....I don't care if everyone in trumps family goes to jail....fact is, it will have nothing to do with what this investigation started off with russian collusion....
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Useless analogy....
No more indictments for russian collusion....you do remember why this all started, right?
Let's say Mueller had hard evidence that Trump knew the Russians were hacking, condoned it, and directed Stone to coordinate with WikiLeaks when to release the stolen DNC data.

  • Would this be consistent with "no more indictments"? Yes. DOJ won't indict Trump per their policy. And if Junior and Kushner weren't involved, they wouldn't be indicted either.
  • Would we have heard about it by now? No. Mueller is and would keep it under tight wraps.
  • When would we find out about it? When Barr releases the report (assuming he doesn't hide the accusation as 'classified' or under 'executive privelege.')

The assumption that "no more indictments" means Trump is exonerated is not a good assumption to make. We just don't know.
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Because they assumed (incorrectly) that the American people wouldn't be stupid enough to elect Trump even WITH his help from the Russians.

Ken

So, you're still cool with obama doing nothing....
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:44 AM
 
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So, you're still cool with obama doing nothing....
No, it was definitely a mistake. That's doesn't make it a crime.

Ken
 
Old 03-24-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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So, you're still cool with obama doing nothing....
Mueller's been investigating for two years. Why do you think Obama knew as much then as Mueller does now? Certainly the Obama admin had probable cause that Trump had questionable dealings with the Russians that went back years, but it's unlikely they had the whole story then.
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