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Old 03-18-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Isn't that more like asking "should the sky be up"? You can think either way and it will make no difference.
A simple yes or no will do.

I don't think anyone has given a yes or no answer yet -just cryptic statements.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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A simple yes or no will do.

I don't think anyone has given a yes or no answer yet -just cryptic statements.
It doesn't matter. What is the point? It's all over the place. There is little to nothing that can be done about the video.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Too funny OP and you are right in America this censoring would be called "Common sense speech control" if the Left was controlling the spin.



Sharing the video is a multi faceted issue and I can sort of see their point but it does not seem right to restrict what we in the US would refer to as a Right. Are they afraid of a copy cat attack from other hate groups? Are they afraid of giving the shooter notoriety? Are they afraid of a backlash from the Muslim community?



I wonder if this shooting will be hushed up like the Vegas one was but that might be impossible since the shooter is alive and I heard that he is planning on representing himself in court. Does NZ have the death penalty?
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:53 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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The entire religion of Islam is simply the violent ideology of a sixth-century despot masquerading as a religious leader, which justifies endless war against anyone who opposes it and calls for the murder of unbelievers and apostates.

The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless.
One thing the anti-Muslim crowd doesn't seem to grasp is that Islam is not a unified cohesive religion. There are dozens of different branches and offshoots of Islam many of which are diametrically opposed to one another. Some are very peaceful like the Sufi and the Ibadi, others are more violent and fundamentalist like the Salafis. To assume they all think and feel in the same way would be absolute folly.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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President Erdogan had used the mosque shooting in Turkey campaign. Erdogan Uses New Zealand Shooting Footage in Turkey Campaign | Time

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Footage of the New Zealand mosque shootings that was pulled down by Facebook, YouTube and other social media platforms has resurfaced as a campaign prop in Turkey.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan screened a montage of videotaped snippets from the attack on Muslim houses of worship in an apparent attempt to galvanize his pious, conservative base ahead of March 31 local elections. At televised rallies in Istanbul and Tekirdag to the west, he showed blurred fragments of suspected attacker Brenton Tarrant’s online manifesto and his livestream from the massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand, which claimed the lives of 50 people.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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And why should I or anyone else who doesn’t live in NZ have interest in this or care?
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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It doesn't matter. What is the point? It's all over the place. There is little to nothing that can be done about the video.
Another non answer -taking the easy way out?

Probably no point going after child porn, by your logic
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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And why should I or anyone else who doesn’t live in NZ have interest in this or care?
If you’re not interested, then don’t participate. Simple as that.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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If you’re not interested, then don’t participate. Simple as that.
I’ll do what I like. Why should I or anyone else who doesn’t live in NZ care about this?
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The rest of his statement.

"The entire religion of Islam is simply the violent ideology of a sixth-century despot masquerading as a religious leader, which justifies endless war against anyone who opposes it and calls for the murder of unbelievers and apostates.

The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless."


Islam is at the same place Christianity was before the enlightenment. Nothing inherently evil about the religion. I know many good Muslims. Me and my wife regularly go to a park where Muslims congregate and I still have my head.
Indeed. The Jewish part of the Bible also advocates killing people and stealing their land.
Christianity is only a relatively good religion because it underwent considerable improvement (softening, secularization, and mixing with heathen beliefs) in Europe.


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How well would it turn out if I immigrated to Yemen, KSA, Iran, the list goes on?
KSA? Not sure but I assume they have lots of foreigners like other Arab countries. In some of them there are many more non-Arabs/non-Muslim migrants than Muslims Arabs.
Yemen is a civil war country, so forget it.
Iran is ok for immigrants, its reputation suffers from Iran-bashing, but in reality Iranians are pretty nice, tolerant people.


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Do you think Nancy Pelosi cares whatsoever about the people she "represents"? Do you think Hillary Clinton cares about you at all?

I think politicians see themselves as good people, but they dare not cross their donors or they'll be out of a job.



He failed before he even started.

He knew his actions were evil, but he believed his evil was small compared to that greater evil being carried-out on a daily-basis.
Yes, I do think they represent citizens. Just because they don't do what you want does not mean they contradict the wishes of the majority of their voters.

Your last sentence almost sounds apologetic, I hope you didn't mean it the way it sounds. Like, poor guy, he meant well, but exaggerated...
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