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Old 03-18-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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You do understand that breaking an EULA is not a criminal matter, surely?

But a copyright infringement, as you claimed, is.

Report it or gtfo.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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Oh my god, shut up already & quit hijacking the thread.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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I don't think he needed to make a statement, because you're quite correct that was his intent, or he wouldn't have live streamed it in the first place. But when you create a social media account you agree to a contract between you and them, regardless of your intentions, and that's what I'm discussing.

So his intention was for the whole world to see it, but once it's uploaded to FB or whatever and that's the only copy, the general public isn't free to just download it and distribute it, so it's not just your free speech/ first amendment or whatever right to see it if it's been taken down by the host.

It doesn't really matter if I'm okay with it or not.
This is quite wrong. If I uploaded a video to Facebook or YouTube and say you can share, download it, etc. that means just that. The host sites have the right to take it down but it does not mean it cannot be shared, what a ridiculous argument.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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Oh my god, shut up already & quit hijacking the thread.
Apologies, I'm done.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:43 PM
 
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This is quite wrong. If I uploaded a video to Facebook or YouTube and say you can share, download it, etc. that means just that. Thethe host sites have the right to take it down but it does not mean it cannot be shared, what a ridiculous argument.

We all know this, it's written in those sites TOS which have been shared here. Anyone who disagrees should take proper action.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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This is quite wrong. If I uploaded a video to Facebook or YouTube and say you can share, download it, etc. that means just that. The host sites have the right to take it down but it does not mean it cannot be shared, what a ridiculous argument.
Ok, just this last one as a public service.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DOWNLOAD YOUTUBE VIDEOS.

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"Streaming" means a contemporaneous digital transmission of the material by YouTube via the Internet to a user operated Internet enabled device in such a manner that the data is intended for real-time viewing and not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user.

"You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content."
Knock yourselves out.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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It says right in there that you can download it if you have consent from the owner. Which is the case here. Which is also the example given by the last poster :


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This is quite wrong. If I uploaded a video to Facebook or YouTube and say you can share, download it, etc. that means just that. The host sites have the right to take it down but it does not mean it cannot be shared, what a ridiculous argument.
So we are definitely allowed to. There are no copyright issues, nothing of the sort. Spreading the video is protected by the 1st amendment. Thank God, this not New Zealand.
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Old 03-18-2019, 07:59 PM
 
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Ok, just this last one as a public service.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DOWNLOAD YOUTUBE VIDEOS.

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Knock yourselves out.
Google can say whatever they like. That doesn't have any legal bearing. Not only because people have the full approval of the creator but because it was a public matter.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Google can say whatever they like. That doesn't have any legal bearing. Not only because people have the full approval of the creator but because it was a public matter.

Google does say we can download the videos if the creator gave consent :


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"You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content."
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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Google does say we can download the videos if the creator gave consent :
That poster thinks it's different for streaming videos.
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