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Old 03-16-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: London
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Killing ISIS and Taliban is worth the cost.
It's interesting that the same people who say things like this generally scream about their taxes being used to help their own countrymen (food stamps, Medicaid, etc).
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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Our interventionist foreign policy today was largely a result of WW2, and the realization that putting out the small fires around the globe early ultimately saves more lives and deters aggression.
Tell us, please, what invading Iraq saved us from.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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What you fail to remember, or are ignoring, is that the US largely shared your isolationist foreign policy ideals in the years leading up the WW2.

How can we be considered isolationists when we had sanctions imposed against Japan before they bombed Pearl Harbor in response?

If another country cut off our supply to oil like we did, would you consider that nation an isolationist country?

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Old 03-16-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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How can we be considered isolationists when we had sanctions imposed against Japan before they bombed Pearl Harbor in response?

If another country cut off our supply to oil like we did, would you consider that nation an isolationist country?


Of course, the Japanese invading and committing unspeakable atrocities in China don't seem to figure into your thinking.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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It's interesting that the same people who say things like this generally scream about their taxes being used to help their own countrymen (food stamps, Medicaid, etc).
They use the smoke screen that the welfare of the world is our responsibility but scream bloody murder if any welfare is brought up to help our own citizens.

It is all about the money.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Of course, the Japanese invading and committing unspeakable atrocities in China don't seem to figure into your thinking.
How is that isolationist on our part?
You are saying that we are responsible for their welfare?
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Trump has the power to pull the troops. He could do it tomorrow. The condemnation there is not coming from the left.
Staying out of pointless foreign wars was one of Bannon's 3 big issues when he ran Trump's campaign (the other 2 were 'bring back manufacturing' and 'address illegal immigration').

If you read Fear by Bob Woodward, Trump is ever-inclined to bring home troops. But there are always people around him trying to talk him out of it--Tillerson, Mattis, Lindsey Graham etc. Also his daughter Ivanka. Woodward says that no one can work Donald Trump better than her. He wanted to pull troops out of Syria, and Ivanka brought him a bunch of pictures of suffering children in Syria.

I don't think you're going to get a more anti-interventionist person elected from either party than Trump. If you're anti-interventionist, Trump's the best you can get.
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Of course, the Japanese invading and committing unspeakable atrocities in China don't seem to figure into your thinking.
We tend to ignore those atrocities anyways if it is being done by our allies.
I hear zero in Yemen about the atrocities being committed against them by the Saudis with the weapons we sold them.
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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Staying out of pointless foreign wars was one of Bannon's 3 big issues when he ran Trump's campaign (the other 2 were 'bring back manufacturing' and 'address illegal immigration').

If you read Fear by Bob Woodward, Trump is ever-inclined to bring home troops. But there are always people around him trying to talk him out of it--Tillerson, Mattis, Lindsey Graham etc. Also his daughter Ivanka. Woodward says that no one can work Donald Trump better than her. He wanted to pull troops out of Syria, and Ivanka brought him a bunch of pictures of suffering children in Syria.

I don't think you're going to get a more anti-interventionist person elected from either party than Trump. If you're anti-interventionist, Trump's the best you can get.
"The Buck Stops Here".

Words are totally meaningless without actions.

"I'm the Queen of England".

Does that make it so?
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Old 03-16-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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"The Buck Stops Here".

Words are totally meaningless without actions.

"I'm the Queen of England".

Does that make it so?
Trump has a lot of words.
He is the typical politician where he sells you much but delivers nothing.

Yes, Trump talks a good game. He's like a waiter who compliments us for ordering the hamburger, but keeps bringing us fish. The hamburger is our signature dish, juicy and grilled to perfection, you've made a brilliant choice ... now here's your salmon.
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