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Old 03-19-2019, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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If Trump would only shed his vestments and cry out to the oracles the wind, the rain and the sun would bow down and serve the people according to their comfort level.
I suspect you would cry the loudest for government to help you when the roads and infrastructure you enjoyed for many years deteriorates and is destroyed by storms/floods.

You want your tax dollars to pay for a useless fence? If that "fence" kept American companies from moving their manufacturing to Mexico, I might think the 25 billion is worth it.

Companies Ponder Moving to Mexico to Escape Trump Tariffs
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You are preaching to the choir.. Tweet this information to your president, would ya?

The infrastructure in our country is crumbling and washing away and all trump can focus on is a fence!
You didn't understand one word of the links Mircea posted did you, if you even read them.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You didn't understand one word of the links Mircea posted did you, if you even read them.
I understand that trump is obsessed with a fence/wall in the middle of now-where while the infrastructure of our country is failing.

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The ASCE estimates the US needs to spend some $4.5 trillion by 2025 to improve the state of the country's roads, bridges, dams, airports, schools, and more.
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According to the report, there were some 15,500 high-hazard dams in the US in 2016.
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The report estimates it would cost some $123 billion just to fix the bridges in the US.
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According to the report, many of the one million pipes have been in use for almost 100 years. The aging system makes water breaks more prevalent, which means there are about two trillion gallons of treated water lost each year.

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Levees play a critical role in protecting communities from flood waters, but they aren't currently getting the attention they need.

During the next 10 years, there's a need for $80 billion to improve these structures, according to the report.
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Trump reportedly "hates" major parts of the infrastructure plan he unveiled in 2018, which proposed $200 billion in federal funding designed to finance new projects and repairs while incentivizing private investment.
America's infrastructure is decaying — here's a look at how terrible things have gotten

Meanwhile, trump is fiddling away demanding a phallic monument, in the form of a fence/wall, be built in his honor.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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Trump isn't focusing on a fence it's the fences that need to be replaced with good physical barriers.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I understand that trump is obsessed with a fence/wall in the middle of now-where while the infrastructure of our country is failing.











America's infrastructure is decaying — here's a look at how terrible things have gotten

Meanwhile, trump is fiddling away demanding a phallic monument, in the form of a fence/wall, be built in his honor.
Much and more hot air. Money for levees, as well as other infrastructure has been regularly appropriated every year. Unfortunately many states haven't spent it or spent it on other projects. That doesn't even include the fact that most of the infrastructure you are highlighting is the responsibility of the states, many of which have ignored it for decades or redirected money away from infrastructure to other non infrastructure projects (in Maryland bridge and road repair money was redirected to Baltimore mass transit).

You also conflate capital projects, a road or levee for example, with expense items like immediate funding. It doesn't help that you have zero, or less than zero, understanding how FEMA operates and how funding for disasters is a!located. Hint: for governments that funding doesn't show up for months and typically goes through at least two review levels, state and federal. Every expense has to be documented and reimbursement is only for expenses above and beyond what is considered normal (meaning overtime costs as an example) and is only reimbursed in a range of 40% to 75%.

For a capital project near any waterway you could begin planning today and you won't turn a shovel of dirt for ten years, if you're lucky and the Sierra Club doesn't get involved.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:44 AM
 
Location: DFW
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You are preaching to the choir.. Tweet this information to your president, would ya?

The infrastructure in our country is crumbling and washing away and all trump can focus on is a fence!
Whatever happened to all those Shovel ready Infrastructure Jobs Obama spent 10 Trillions $$ in Debt on ??

Remember that Obama promise on those shovel ready jobs ? The money must have gone to pay off his good buddies.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Much and more hot air. Money for levees, as well as other infrastructure has been regularly appropriated every year. Unfortunately many states haven't spent it or spent it on other projects. That doesn't even include the fact that most of the infrastructure you are highlighting is the responsibility of the states, many of which have ignored it for decades or redirected money away from infrastructure to other non infrastructure projects (in Maryland bridge and road repair money was redirected to Baltimore mass transit).

You also conflate capital projects, a road or levee for example, with expense items like immediate funding. It doesn't help that you have zero, or less than zero, understanding how FEMA operates and how funding for disasters is a!located. Hint: for governments that funding doesn't show up for months and typically goes through at least two review levels, state and federal. Every expense has to be documented and reimbursement is only for expenses above and beyond what is considered normal (meaning overtime costs as an example) and is only reimbursed in a range of 40% to 75%.

For a capital project near any waterway you could begin planning today and you won't turn a shovel of dirt for ten years, if you're lucky and the Sierra Club doesn't get involved.

Tell that to trump!

Did Trump fulfill $1 trillion infrastructure promise?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-nwcNq3bqw
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Whatever happened to all those Shovel ready Infrastructure Jobs Obama spent 10 Trillions $$ in Debt on ??

Remember that Obama promise on those shovel ready jobs ? The money must have gone to pay off his good buddies.
I don't know where you get the 10 trillion dollar figure from, Infowars?

Here are the facts to answer your concerns:

The stimulus was not primarily an infrastructure bill

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In February 2009, Obama signed into law a stimulus package that ultimately cost just over $800 billion. (Earlier estimates had been higher, so we won’t quibble with Trump’s rounding it up to $1 trillion.)

The "shovel-ready" aspects of the stimulus tended to attract the most attention. But officially, that was only one of the act’s goals, and if you look closely at how the funds were allocated, only a fraction of the total was ever intended to go to infrastructure.

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Just to cite a few of the bigger projects, the Recovery Act helped push to completion the $1 billion DFW Connector highway in Dallas-Fort Worth; a $650 million elevated truck route to the Port of Tampa; a new Cleveland Innerbelt Bridge; a tunnel connecting Oakland and Contra Costa County, Calif.; new light rail lines in Salt Lake City and Dallas; a courthouse in Austin; a hospital at Camp Pendleton in California; a veterans' facility at Fort Bliss in Texas; and new headquarters for the Department of Homeland Security and the Coast Guard. And the list of projects funded by the act runs to nine pages in his book, even though that’s just a partial accounting
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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...amas-stimulus/
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:41 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Flooding threatening 12 million Americans. https://www.today.com/video/dangerou...-1459439683566

Record number of tornadoes, some deadly. https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-b...vice-says.html

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...egion/70007706

High winds. https://www.recordherald.com/news/37...damage-outages
https://www.abc17news.com/news/stron...uri/1059534060



But for trump the real emergency is making sure his phallic symbol gets built at the expense of taxpayers!

Why isn't Trump stopping tornadoes? Why, why, why???!!!
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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With their vote!
Oh, yeah. That will really "change" the climate!
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