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Old 03-16-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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How does a parent know if a College doesn’t accept their child/student, due to being In State student, compared to accepting an Out of State student which will pay approximately 4 times the amount than In State!

Colleges need these tuitions to set of scholarships, etc.

If a College would only accept In State students than they collect way less money.

Based on that do you think that students admissions are fair and based on grades, SAT scores, etc or are they based on other things that in a major way affect your child’s chances and how fair is this.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:26 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Why shouldn't my kids be able to go to school in California, Texas or Florida if they like at the same price as kids from those states? If you tried to sell any other product at a 400% highger sticker to people based solely on their state of residence, people would be outraged.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Why shouldn't my kids be able to go to school in California, Texas or Florida if they like at the same price as kids from those states? If you tried to sell any other product at a 400% highger sticker to people based solely on their state of residence, people would be outraged.
And yet all state schools charge a premium for none-resident students to attend, the residents taxes have paid for the institutions so they receive the discount. I guess your kids will attend their home state schools or you'll be paying more..
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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Why shouldn't my kids be able to go to school in California, Texas or Florida if they like at the same price as kids from those states? If you tried to sell any other product at a 400% highger sticker to people based solely on their state of residence, people would be outraged.
This is limited to state-supported universities. Private universities cost the same whether you are a resident of the state or not.

The reason out-of-state residents are charged more at public universities is because their families are not contributing to the tax base in the state where they choose to attend school. So the university charges the out-of-state student more than the in-state student, because the in-state student and his family have already paid at least some state taxes that support the public university, whereas the out-of-state student and his family presumably have not, what with being resident of another state altogether and all.

No big mystery here. Very simple concept, really.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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How does a parent know if a College doesn’t accept their child/student, due to being In State student, compared to accepting an Out of State student which will pay approximately 4 times the amount than In State!

Colleges need these tuitions to set of scholarships, etc.

If a College would only accept In State students than they collect way less money.

Based on that do you think that students admissions are fair and based on grades, SAT scores, etc or are they based on other things that in a major way affect your child’s chances and how fair is this.
They wouldn't and there is no way to know. A school unless it has a hard SAT score level or GPA has a lot of soft criteria. Say me being an Eagle Scout with silver palm, that wouldn't hurt me but potentially help, but it isn't a quantifiable help like weighted versus unweighted GPA or SAT and ACT scores are. I find the issue in many acceptance issue is the qualitative data, not quantitative.

I can say a number of schools are a part of exchange programs where for certain majors out of state students get a reduced out of state tuition rate. My alma-mater NAU had that and we had a lot of Californians for that reason. I'm not sure how common it is with other schools but I found it with "smaller schools". It isn't a huge discount, but it is worth it if you don't find a good program instate for your major.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:56 PM
 
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Having worked in the industry, colleges definitely try to get out of state and even better international students who are paying more. Also chasing diversity targets.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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How does a parent know if a College doesn’t accept their child/student, due to being In State student, compared to accepting an Out of State student which will pay approximately 4 times the amount than In State!

Colleges need these tuitions to set of scholarships, etc.

If a College would only accept In State students than they collect way less money.

Based on that do you think that students admissions are fair and based on grades, SAT scores, etc or are they based on other things that in a major way affect your child’s chances and how fair is this.
The UC system limits out of state and foreign admissions to 18%.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Why shouldn't my kids be able to go to school in California, Texas or Florida if they like at the same price as kids from those states? If you tried to sell any other product at a 400% highger sticker to people based solely on their state of residence, people would be outraged.
Because taxpayers subsidize state colleges.
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