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When the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment, they had muskets in mind.
Why not just allow only the guns that existed at the time? The "right to bear arms" doesn't necessarily mean the "right to bear ANY type of arms conceivable", does it?
I'd personally prefer guns to NOT be restricted at this point, just playing the devil's advocate.
There was a semi auto long gun when the 2nd was written. It was air powered.
When the founding fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment, they had muskets in mind.
Why not just allow only the guns that existed at the time? The "right to bear arms" doesn't necessarily mean the "right to bear ANY type of arms conceivable", does it?
I'd personally prefer guns to NOT be restricted at this point, just playing the devil's advocate.
They had the weapons in mind that were state of the art for the time and put the citizens on par with the military- that was the idea.
To the contrary, the founding fathers would be shocked at all the restrictions we have today, including bans on full auto weapons, grenades, tanks, ect.... that would put citizens on par with the military.
No one can envision new technology. However, the founding fathers could envision a tyrannical government attempting to place greater controls on the citizens, thus the need for weapons to equal that of the government.
They had the weapons in mind that were state of the art for the time and put the citizens on par with the military- that was the idea.
To the contrary, the founding fathers would be shocked at all the restrictions we have today, including bans on full auto weapons, grenades, tanks, ect.... that would put citizens on par with the military.
No one can envision new technology. However, the founding fathers could envision a tyrannical government attempting to place greater controls on the citizens, thus the need for weapons to equal that of the government.
Ah. Fair enough.
Hopefully it never comes to that though, because military technology has advanced so much (and gotten so expensive), the average civilian probably couldn't catch up nowadays.
The title of the thread is wrong. NZ banned legally owned semi automatic sporting arms, so now only the government, and criminals can have them, thus putting the law abiding subject (serf) at more risk.
Meanwhile in the US... AR-15 rifles were used to commit every major mass shooting in the United States since the 2012 attack in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater and we do nothing.
Now how EASY was that, outlawing assault weapons???
We are so stupid. They are not. They saw the problem and basically fixed it. And the US families of victims still cry.....
Now how EASY was that, outlawing assault weapons???
We are so stupid. They are not. They saw the problem and basically fixed it. And the US families of victims still cry.....
Well, considering how much one can trust the US Government, considering what we have seen parts of the world do when civilians are unarmed, I don't we are stupid at all.
30,000 Gun deaths a year in the US. US population at 324,059,091.......0.000000925% of the population dies from gun deaths.
65% (19,500) die of suicide by gun
15% (4500) are by law enforcement, both justified and not
17% (5100) are gang activity, drug related, and mentally ill people
3% (900) are accidental
Of those numbers, the 17% is what people consider gun violence, whether they had them legally or not and look at this
480 were in Chicago
344 in Baltimore
333 in Detroit
119 in Washington DC
basically 25% of what is called "gun violence" occurs in only 4 cities. And you can break it down further to where in those cities it's concentrated.
We are basically left with 3825 for the rest of the nation, or 75 per state if we break it down, in a country over over 300 million guns and 330 million people.
Facts that will be ignored by the emotionally driven.
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