After criminal madman murders 50 in New Zealand, govt responds by passing laws that restrict the law-abiding (??) (weapons, borders)
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Some peaceable New Zealanders are even turning in their guns already, thus removing the first line of defense against insane terrorists like the one who shot up the mosques in their own country. You know, the guy who took advantage of the fact that the police never arrive soon enough to stop the bulk of the killings, and the fact that the people who ARE there are seldom in a position to stop the murderer, them being unarmed.
Great call, NZ government. The next terrorist(s) will thank you.
Yet again, people fall into the trap of believing that govt can provide the best solution to this kind of problem... or ANY solution to it. How many more of them will die in service to this silly, long-debunked notion?
Shibani Mahtani, The Washington Post
Published 8:03 am CDT, Monday, March 18, 2019
WELLINGTON, New Zealand - Some rushed to their trusted online dealers and stores to stock up on semiautomatic assault rifles. Others unlocked their secure cabinets, picked up their firearms and turned them into police stations, no questions asked.
The estimated quarter of a million gun owners across this largely quiet, peaceful South Pacific country, many of them dedicated hunters, are bracing for what are likely to be significant reforms to New Zealand's firearm laws. Leaders have hinted the changes will impact the proliferation and availability of semiautomatic weapons in particular.
The changes, agreed to in principle by the country's coalition government Monday - just 72 hours after the deadliest act of gun violence in New Zealand history - put the country in line with others that have taken swift action following tragedy within their borders. Details of the changes will be announced within the week, and must be passed by parliament.
It would seem that any one individual has the power to strip away everyone else's rights. This is why we place so much value on the bill of rights that leftists keep trying to erode away year after year.
The Australian terrorist began firing, spraying the people gathered like sitting ducks, calmly and methodically.
Mr Nasasrah, 63, was hit twice in his leg and slumped to the ground. Two men who were shot fell on top of him. “He (the gunman) approached us and opened fire (again). Both were killed and I felt them dying,” Mr Nasasrah said. “I felt their blood. I myself was shot and I thought ‘I’m dying’.”
He waited and prayed, staying as still as he could, for several minutes. He hoped that [the madman] would stop, run out of bullets or move on.
“Every time he stopped, I thought he was gone, but he returned over and over again,” Mr Nasasrah said.
Th madman kept coming back, firing again and again without letup, at his leisure. No police were there yet. And the people who WERE there, were incapable of firing back, stopping the madman, or otherwise defending themselves, being completely unarmed. Due mostly to the mistaken belief that "having a gun was bad, we shouldn't do it".
Fifty of those unarmed people are dead now, and dozens more injured. How many more shootings do we have to go through, before we start realizing that there are worse things than law-abiding people carrying a gun. Such as those law-abiding people leaving themselves open to a massacre with no way to defend themselves, dying while they awaited police who will usually take several minutes to get there.
It would seem that any one individual has the power to strip away everyone else's rights. This is why we place so much value on the bill of rights that leftists keep trying to erode away year after year.
New Zealand has more than 1.2 million civilian-owned firearms — about one gun for every four people, according to Small Arms Survey, which provides estimates for gun ownership around the world. That puts the country in the top 20 nations in the world for civilian gun ownership
Yes, clearly it was a lack of a "good guy with a gun" that caused this. That's why here at home in the US we've virtually eliminated mass shootings, because guns are so readily available.
Th madman kept coming back, firing again and again without letup, at his leisure. No police were there yet. And the people who WERE there, were incapable of firing back, stopping the madman, or otherwise defending themselves, being completely unarmed. Due mostly to the mistaken belief that "having a gun was bad, we shouldn't do it".
Fifty of those unarmed people are dead now, and dozens more injured. How many more shootings do we have to go through, before we start realizing that there are worse things than law-abiding people carrying a gun. Such as those law-abiding people leaving themselves open to a massacre with no way to defend themselves, dying while they awaited police who will usually take several minutes to get there.
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Originally Posted by mikeyyc
New Zealand has more than 1.2 million civilian-owned firearms — about one gun for every four people, according to Small Arms Survey, which provides estimates for gun ownership around the world. That puts the country in the top 20 nations in the world for civilian gun ownership
Yes, clearly it was a lack of a "good guy with a gun" that caused this. That's why here at home in the US we've virtually eliminated mass shootings, because guns are so readily available.
Didn't even read the post you're complaining about, did you?
Go back and read it again, s l o w l y. Paying particular attention to the last sentence in the first paragraph.
What I'm saying is that they don't have restrictive gun laws now. It didn't do anything to prevent the shooting. It's a fallacy that loose gun laws prevent gun violence.
The New Zealanders aren't giving up all their guns. They're giving up only their AR-15s.
Voluntarily.
Then why a law?
All the esteemed city fathers need to do is roll out a dumpster in verey town square and let those that want to, turn them in. Likewise if one decides the AR-15 is the devil they can simply not purchase one.
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