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Old 07-28-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Diversity will be the death of America (and the rest of the West).


Invite tens of millions of non-Western people who don't have your similar values, customs and many who hate you.


What could possibly go wrong?


That's why it HAS to be a globalist scheme to destroy the West...because it's too completely insane to comprehend.

You're WAY too late, Kav.

America was ruined back in the 1800s.

The Irish were the first to contaminate America, then came the Italians.

After them, it was all kindsa "who knows where they're from" types from Eastern Europe.

Definitely not American material.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

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Old 07-28-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Peace? I dunno. Te last time we had a real war in the US was 1895. Been pretty quiet ever since.


Build The Wall. As someone said, it is a simple concept. And recent attempts of illegal to rush the guarded checkpoints shows that the simplest solution is often the best.
Build The Wall. Then handle the immigration/guest worker question.
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Old 07-28-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Peace will elude us as long as people continue to ignore the non-aggression principle and the property rights of others - the foundational principles of peace and civilization itself.
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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You're WAY too late, Kav.

America was ruined back in the 1800s.

The Irish were the first to contaminate America, then came the Italians.

After them, it was all kindsa "who knows where they're from" types from Eastern Europe.

Definitely not American material.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The big difference is, though...those were all Europeans.


It would be like a make believe country that was founded and built by all people from Korea, China, Japan, Indochina and so on...yes, all different and unique cultures but when you get down to it, they are all more similar than any place outside the continent of Asia.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The big difference is, though...those were all Europeans.
And all were met with plenty of anti-immigrant fervor in their time.

Not unlike C Americans are today.

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It would be like a make believe country that was founded and built by all people from Korea, China, Japan, Indochina and so on
And no one is making anything close to that assertion.

Besides you.
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...yes, all different and unique cultures but when you get down to it, they are all more similar than any place outside the continent of Asia.
Another failed deflection.

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Old 07-29-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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War is a racket. It is waged for profit. Trump is a con man. He conned the people into voting for him and has delivered nothing to them. Trump's saving grace is he hasn't started a war.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Although the guises may differ, people who study history are no less doomed to repeat it than those who don’t. The reason for this circumstance is not so mystifying once we are prepared to acknowledge that the apprehension of death, and the necessity to mitigate that apprehension, always has and always will prompt and shape virtually every human activity. If our responses to the prospect of death can, for sure, be benign and creative—can, for example, result in works of art that will survive our demise—they are, as often as not, malignant. And this is a grim reality that despite lessons from the past we are compelled to perpetuate.


Let me try to explain.


When F. Scott Fitzgerald remarked that ”In [the] dark night of the soul it is always three o’clock in the morning,” he was talking about the fundamental burden of human existence, of the terror that inhabits a life that is aware of its fate. To live with just a modicum of equanimity that terror has to be managed, and what we do to this end is we bury it. We repress it. But notwithstanding our success at repressing an all consuming death dread—even to the point of becoming apparently heedless of death’s inevitability—our trepidation never entirely disappears. Indeed, it remains subconsciously constant and dynamic and, however incognizant we may be of its processes and consequences, it is the determining force behind all manner of destructive behavior.


Simply put, beings who know they will die cannot withstand extended periods of amity. Unable to confront the ultimate evil of death directly, it’s essential to have enemies, enemies that can be confronted. We need, that is, human surrogates for evil who are at the very least potentially vanquishable. Persons of races, cultures, religions, nationalities and sexual orientations different from ours serve this purpose well. Through our hostile engagement with these designated embodiments of evil, we simulate what constitute symbolic struggles with death, struggles that absorb and preoccupy us and that allow us, when we win, to experience the pleasure of securing what feels like a victory over death. Pleasure, as Epicurus noted, is the absence of pain, and pain is definable not merely as physical suffering but also as fear and anxiety. The eradication of manufactured adversaries affords us the sensation of killing our own death.


Of course, since the basic problem still exists, our elation in these contrived instances is transitory. It wears off. We are forced then to make new enemies. (When we lose we may feel as good as dead, may enter a profound depression that will not lift until we identify fresh villains with whom to do combat. And while I’m in the aside of a parentheses, I don’t think it’s farfetched to suggest that what we really mean by the “social contract” is the unspoken agreement to supply one another with antagonists for the battle with mortality.)


Born in 1939, only a couple of decades after the “war to end all wars,” I’ve been a witness to World War Two, the Holocaust, the dropping of the atom bomb, the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam, not to mention 9/11, the invasion of Iraq, genocides, assassinations and countless mass murders. All of these travesties were intended to enable their perpetrators to deny their abominable destinies. The Donald Trump administration is among the most current of such travesties. Should I last a little longer I’m quite likely to attend the disintegration of democracy itself.


In the prominent case of Trump, and following what I’ve attempted to describe, we can clearly see why he ascended to the presidency in 2016 and why (barring genuinely intolerable investigative revelations—I write this in late winter of 2019) he may yet win again in 2020.


What Trump did was address our very deepest requirement, the necessity to mollify the anticipation of extinction. He accomplished this by providing scapegoats for our untenable predicament. Mexicans, Muslims and an "illegitimate" black president were responsible for the jeopardy in which we find ourselves. His posture in this respect was, I’d argue, more crucial to his election than his promises of jobs and economic security. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, offered programs and policies that, devoid of monsters posing existential threats, were limited to the wholly rational. Contrary to how it may often appear, people do vote in their best interest. Hillary failed to recognize what, at bottom, we truly want.


I don’t know what man made horrors await the planet in the coming years. I do know that they’ll be impervious to history, that they'll be abundant and that the unacceptability of death will be at their root.


F. Scott Fitzgerald was a drunk with a lot of problems. I like my chances of figuring out human behavior on my own better.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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OP... You've seen the horrors of the Nazi's, the Communist and the extreme Socialist.

Do you want your great grand children living in a country that is being taken down a path of extreme Socialism as being promised by the current Progressive Democrat party that appears to be catching on and is now popular thought?

The current crop of Democrat Candidates can't seem to offer enough "Free" to anyone who will listen and vote for them. As we know, nothing is free so they must take from the people who have and give it free to those who have been promised. They offer no opportunity to achieve and get ahead. This is one step from being Communist.

As far as an an "Illegitimate President"... give me a break. You and the other Liberals have been screaming this since 2 am Nov 8 2016.

What a load of crap.
No one is getting more "Free" stuff than Trump`s base.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...curity/516861/
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Old 07-29-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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If there was peace and thus a utopian-type world, then we really wouldn't have room to improve even more. As admirable as peace and tolerance are on paper or in theory, in practice that is something that humankind won't truly obtain while we are still on this Earth! One shouldn't force another person to believe in peace or tolerance. Trying to talk doesn't exactly work either at times.
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Old 07-29-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Nowhere
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And all were met with plenty of anti-immigrant fervor in their time.

Not unlike C Americans are today.

And no one is making anything close to that assertion.

Besides you.
Another failed deflection.

Point went over your head. Not surprised.
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