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Old 03-19-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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It's amazing how people will embrace studies if they fit their agenda even if the study data is secret and produces no verifiable facts.
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A paper on mass public shootings by Adam Lankford (2016) has received massive national and international media attention, getting coverage in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, plus hundreds of other news outlets spanning at least 35 different countries. Lankford’s claim was that over the 47 years from 1966 to 2012, an enormous amount of the world’s mass public shooters — 31% — occurred in the United States. Lankford attributed this to America’s gun ownership.

Lankford claims to have “complete” data on such shooters in 171 countries. However, because he has neither identified the cases nor their location nor even a complete description on how he put the cases together, it is impossible to replicate his findings.

Even when we use coding choices that are most charitable to Lankford, his 31 percent estimate of the US’s share of world mass public shooters is cut by over 95 percent.

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/08/ne...Q6cEAgyiGqtevM
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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It all boils down to two facts that gun control proponents
have not been able to address:

(1) There is a direct relationship between restrictive gun control laws and increased crime. Almost all gun control laws have been statistically proven to be linked to increases in crime.

(2) Criminals by definition do not obey the law. Using a firearm to harm another is already illegal.
Proponents might want to spend more time thinking about the facts, and less time writing about feelings that won't fix the problem.




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Old 03-19-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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So we are supposed to believe the study is off by 95% just because a gun advocate says so in his website.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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So we are supposed to believe the study is off by 95% just because a gun advocate says so in his website.



Liberals operate from fear, and they’ve got an entire routine about people supposedly shooting family members and not being able to stop criminals, But people who want to take away your rights under the pretense of safety and security are really just laying the groundwork for tyranny.
In the end, the only form of gun control that works is taking aim before pulling the trigger.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Liberals operate from fear ...
Gee, I wonder how many more times I or somebody else is going to have to repeat this?

They've done studies on this, and yes, conservatives operate from fear.

People who are "fearful" tend to be politically conservative
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“We suggest that people are not expected to be more fearful because they are conservative; rather, individuals who are more fearful tend to espouse less supportive policies toward out-groups, and this process operates through a common genetic pathway.”
Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes
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Peer-reviewed research shows that conservatives are more sensitive to threat. While this threat-bias can distort reality, fuel irrational fears, and make one more vulnerable to fear-mongering politicians, it could also promote hypervigilance, perhaps making one better prepared to handle an immediate threat.

1. Conservatives tend to focus on the negative ...
2. Conservatives have a stronger physiological response to threat ...
3. Conservatives fear new experiences ...
4. Conservatives’ brains are more reactive to fear ...
It's so obvious to anybody (except probably the conservatives) it isn't funny. I mean, it's just blatant that that's what they respond to. Why do you think they want to be able to own guns in the first place? Because they'r afraid. DUH!
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:01 PM
 
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So we are supposed to believe the study is off by 95% just because a gun advocate says so in his website.
Why would you believe any study that refuses to show their work?
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:03 PM
 
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I recall reading a study where it revealed a lot of these so called mass shootings (three or more people) involved family members and suicide. Not as scary as public shootings involving more people who are unrelated.


I agree that Democrats should not own guns.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Gee, I wonder how many more times I or somebody else is going to have to repeat this?

They've done studies on this, and yes, conservatives operate from fear.

People who are "fearful" tend to be politically conservative


Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

It's so obvious to anybody (except probably the conservatives) it isn't funny. I mean, it's just blatant that that's what they respond to. Why do you think they want to be able to own guns in the first place? Because they'r afraid. DUH!
Great post!

I wonder how that caravan is going?
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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Gee, I wonder how many more times I or somebody else is going to have to repeat this?

They've done studies on this, and yes, conservatives operate from fear.

People who are "fearful" tend to be politically conservative


Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

It's so obvious to anybody (except probably the conservatives) it isn't funny. I mean, it's just blatant that that's what they respond to. Why do you think they want to be able to own guns in the first place? Because they'r afraid. DUH!
I bet those studies are done by unbiased groups.
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Old 03-19-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I bet those studies are done by unbiased groups.
Did you even read them?

Probably not.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/ajps.12016
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...Using a large sample of related individuals, we find that individuals with a higher degree of social fear have more negative out‐group opinions, which, in this study, manifest as anti‐immigration and prosegregation attitudes. We decompose the covariation between social fear and attitudes and find the principal pathway by which the two are related is through a shared genetic foundation. Our findings present a novel mechanism explicating how fear manifests as out‐group attitudes and accounts for some portion of the genetic influences on political attitudes.
And some more ...

https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/13/1/43/4596542
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... To test whether conservatism is associated with increased reactivity in neural threat circuitry, we measured participants’ self-reported social and economic conservatism and asked them to complete high-resolution fMRI scans while under threat of an unpredictable shock and while safe. We found that economic conservatism predicted greater connectivity between the BNST and a cluster of voxels in the left amygdala during threat vs safety. These results suggest that increased amygdala–BNST connectivity during threat may be a key neural correlate of the enhanced negativity bias found in conservatism.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...71B377C2EED6CA
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Substantial research concludes that favoritism toward members of people's ingroup, or ingroup bias, motivates people to oppose public programs that assist needy outgroup individuals. I argue that a gap in the empathic capacity for ingroup and outgroup members motivates and maintains ingroup bias in helping behavior and is sensitive to contextual cues that trigger anxiety. Using a novel experimental design, Study 1 demonstrates that anxiety exacerbates the outgroup empathy gap. Study 2 replicates these findings with an explicit measure of outgroup empathy. Study 3 shows that the outgroup empathy gap causes individuals to become less supportive of helping needy outgroup members. These studies suggest that opposition to welfare programs may go beyond simple prejudice.
And so on, and so forth.
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