Bill allows expungement for 1st-time drunken drivers (employment, crimes, insurance)

[EastwardBound]

Perhaps, if they've gone ten years without another arrest and have gone though AA and therapy.

[Fifty Seven]

Originally Posted by boxus

Lol, they tried that once, did not work.

Alcohol is absurdly easy to make, any attempts at making it overly restrict people will just get it very easily anyway, and even better, no way to tell nor enforce how they got it.

Hell, i got a batch of wine going at home now.

Marijuana is just as easy if not easier to produce yourself as alcohol is, yet the government keeps that illegal. I doubt if alcohol prohibition were the law today it would be reversed just because it created more organized crime and could be made by individuals. It would instead be used as an excuse to increase law enforcement budgets and further oppress otherwise law abiding citizens, like marijuana prohibition is used today.

Originally Posted by rstevens62

IF it didnt work, why was it the first thing they tried with prescription painkillers then?

Because they are idiots, or actively pernicious. The alternative to many of those pain killers is not making your own at home, it's using heroin and other harder, destructive and intensely addictive drugs. The use of those drugs has skyrocketed in recent years and destroyed countless lives. That was either a very unfortunate unforeseen consequence or someone somewhere wanted that result.

[carterstamp]

I think the laws should be tougher.

One offense, lose your license for a year.

Second offense - lose your car.

Done.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

I think the laws should be tougher.

One offense, lose your license for a year.

Second offense - lose your car.

Done.

Agree and should apply equally to all other infractions such as speeding, failure to signal, rolling a stop, driving too slow, expired license plates

[shadowne]

Originally Posted by craigiri

The biggest reason we are so soft on it is that pols and LE do it to the max (I am very familiar with both), so even good cops feel a little kinship with that poor drunk driver.

I knew a Vietnam Vet who was caught at least 5 times totally drunk and driving. He actually assaulted the cop who stopped him once or twice.

Nothing happened because the cops felt bad for him (he did have horrible PTSD, but still).

What decade was that?

[carterstamp]

If you're too stupid to realize you're too impaired to drive a motorized killing machine, then you should lose the privilege to own one.

[CCbaxter]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Agree and should apply equally to all other infractions such as speeding, failure to signal, rolling a stop, driving too slow, expired license plates

Right, and you should go to death row for a triple murder, and jaywalking.
Don’t you people have the least bit of common sense?

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

If you're too stupid to realize you're too impaired to drive a motorized killing machine, then you should lose the privilege to own one.

Agree and same with speeding, driving tired, speeding, failure to signal...

The cops could implement roadside IQ tests

[Fifty Seven]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Agree and should apply equally to all other infractions such as speeding, failure to signal, rolling a stop, driving too slow, expired license plates

Better yet, let's force everyone to use uber, or even better still, government licensed taxi cabs. If prices skyrocket due to use of the service becoming mandatory, the government can just enact strict price controls. It will be a ride sharing utopia!

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

I dont think drunken driving should be a crime.

And I think you're wrong. Drunk driving is dangerous driving. Deadly driving.