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View Poll Results: In March ‘19 is there a labor shortage in the United States?
Yes 8 36.36%
No 14 63.64%
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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No, we're experiencing a skilled labor shortage. One of the biggest complaints employers have is not being able to find employees who are qualified. There are plenty of people out there who still want to work but aren't, and that's because they don't have the required skills to take advantage of the job openings that are out there right now.

Companies creating jobs is great, but you have to have someone who can actually do the work to fill them.
No, you have to pay the market rate. If you don't find someone "who can actually do the work", it is because you are not paying the market rate.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:39 PM
 
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That link says that manufacturers are trying to pay less than the market rate, which means no shortage.

Which should not surprise anyone, since a labor shortage is basically a logical impossibility in the absence of a catastrophic reduction of the number of people in the normal working age range.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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The birth rate is half what it was in 1960.

There has been an ongoing dramatic decline in the teen birth rate.
Which is another way of saying that Americans don't think there is a labor shortage.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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No, we're experiencing a skilled labor shortage. One of the biggest complaints employers have is not being able to find employees who are qualified. There are plenty of people out there who still want to work but aren't, and that's because they don't have the required skills to take advantage of the job openings that are out there right now.

Companies creating jobs is great, but you have to have someone who can actually do the work to fill them.
If companies were willing to pay what the job is worth, and provide training as required... they'd have no shortage of skilled workers.

We don't have a labor shortage. We have a pay shortage.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:52 PM
 
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In March of 2019 in your view is the US economy currently experiencing a labor shortage? Feel free to make your case once you’ve answered the poll.
Mightn't it be more useful to discuss opinions of experts with statistics, instead of comparing laymen personal option? I don't know if there's a labor shortage overall, but there's apparently a shortage of SKILLED labor.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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Mightn't it be more useful to discuss opinions of experts with statistics, instead of comparing laymen personal option? I don't know if there's a labor shortage overall, but there's apparently a shortage of SKILLED labor.
There are no statistics that could ever be relevant to this topic. And, no, there is not a shortage of skilled labor.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Mightn't it be more useful to discuss opinions of experts with statistics, instead of comparing laymen personal option? I don't know if there's a labor shortage overall, but there's apparently a shortage of SKILLED labor.
The expert consensus is there is a shortage across many industries, which includes blue collar/low skill jobs. However there appears to be some dissonance between reality and what Joe the Plumber thinks. So this is more of an exercise to show the perception of posters on this message board...plus a few dozen Russian trolls.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:21 PM
 
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The expert consensus is there is a shortage across many industries, which includes blue collar/low skill jobs. However there appears to be some dissonance between reality and what Joe the Plumber thinks. So this is more of an exercise to show the perception of posters on this message board...plus a few dozen Russian trolls.
What the hell is a Russian troll?

And there is no such thing as a labor shortage in this country. It is an impossibility by definition except in an extreme situation like the Alamo where there is literally no additional labor available at any price. So, no, the expert consensus is NOT that "there is a shortage across many industries".
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:30 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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No, we're experiencing a skilled labor shortage. One of the biggest complaints employers have is not being able to find employees who are qualified. There are plenty of people out there who still want to work but aren't, and that's because they don't have the required skills to take advantage of the job openings that are out there right now.

Companies creating jobs is great, but you have to have someone who can actually do the work to fill them.
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If companies were willing to pay what the job is worth, and provide training as required... they'd have no shortage of skilled workers.

We don't have a labor shortage. We have a pay shortage.
Skilled labor shortage, I can understand. So my question is why aren't American companies willing to train people? I mean like they do in Germany?

Two things I see about American companies. The first you can easily see, just look at so many of the job postings for any job. They expect you to have a degree AND 5 years experience for a entry level job with entry level pay. Basically they want other companies or the government to train their employees for them.

The second thing I see is related to the problem above. American companies only think short term, how can I increase dividends and share price for my stockholders. So they increasingly see workers as a burden instead of a skilled asset. Instead of looking to train and keep employees long term for the future, they are looking short term to layoff people so their stock goes up.

I agree with Turkey-head.
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