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Well I am not one of those who are in favor of impeaching Trump. But I do understand the frustration of those who do.
Because our leaders, especially in Congress are not leading. They only lead when they are forced to. And that is why so many of us are turning to the left and right, for instance in 2016 to Bernie and Trump, or more recently to people like AOC, because we cannot get our traditional leaders to actually carry out their promises.
But it's really the fault of the voters who are deeply addicted to voting to keep incumbents in office term after term. So why should congress people feel they need to lead when the voters absolutely refuse to hold them accountable to doing it? Seriously, every winning vote they get tells them they must be doing something right.
It would be if Reps had a spine and would act to remove him but they won't.
So it will just be a distraction and he will drum up the persecution complex even more to rile up his base.
The Dems need to focus on having a message that can win in 2020.
I'm also convinced that the serious and atypical political divisions we've seen since 2016 will only get worse if he was removed somehow, but they might improve if he is defeated at the ballot box.
I order to impeach Trump, an offense committed while in office must be proven. Being elected is no an impeachable offense. There are no grounds for impeachment. What they are talking about is a coup. A forcible removal from office based on him not being in line with the left and him defeating their candidate in 2016. This impeachment business is ridiculous.
Not true. A president can be impeached and convicted for any reason or for no stated reason, if enough members of congress choose to do it.
Not true. A president can be impeached and convicted for any reason or for no stated reason, if enough members of congress choose to do it.
Beat me to it. Both are political exercises. They could say that he violated the Emoluments Clause. Doesn't matter if he did or didn't. All that matters are the votes (in the House, and then in the Senate).
It would be if Reps had a spine and would act to remove him but they won't.
So it will just be a distraction and he will drum up the persecution complex even more to rile up his base.
The Dems need to focus on having a message that can win in 2020.
I'm also convinced that the serious and atypical political divisions we've seen since 2016 will only get worse if he was removed somehow, but they might improve if he is defeated at the ballot box.
You mean that hating Trump, socialism, free college, Medicare for all, losing the EC, The Green Deal, ( getting rid of cars, planes, cows, and paying people that don’t want to work) , abolishing ICE, open borders, 50 or 60 Supreme Court Justices, isn’t the lefts message?
Seems like all the Dem new comers who plan on running for POTUS in 2020 are all onboard with this.
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Personally, I don't think Pelosi truly believes it's not worth it.
Why Impeaching Trump Is ‘Worth It’
By Philippe Reines
There is also a mounting political cost to not impeaching Mr. Trump. He will hail it as exoneration and he will go into the 2020 campaign under the banner “I Told You So,” declaring that for all their talk of removing him from office, Democrats had merely been playing politics for three years...
But perhaps the most persuasive political case for impeachment is the long view. Set aside what it would mean for the 2020 elections. Mr. Trump is a pernicious, divisive figure who is poisoning our politics, and hopes to do so for years to come. Should he lose in 2020, he has already laid the groundwork for an all-out assault against the media, the political establishment and the Democratic Party itself.
It's just like reading your posts. Nothing of substance comes out of it and it's a waste of time.
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There are no grounds for impeachment. What they are talking about is a coup. A forcible removal from office based on him not being in line with the left and him defeating their candidate in 2016. This impeachment business is ridiculous.
LOL.
