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Old 03-21-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
That is absolutely NOT the law of the land in NC. You might want to go and check your notes.
I didn't say so, I said they are considering it (it has passed one legislative chamber in NC).

 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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OK...good luck with that. I simply sit back and laugh at grown adults throwing a hissy fit because they lost an election. Why not try and come up with some ideas moderates and independents who vote for Trump would want to vote democrat again?
The only one throwing a hissy fit is you.

I love this idea, btw.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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But as mentioned a thousand times, the popular vote does not exist. The electoral vote exist, the number of votes is just reflected on who voted in the electoral. Campaigns are not ran based on the popular vote, voters do not vote based on the popular vote. The "popular" vote referenced during the electoral vote is not a true popular vote, and it means nothing.
You are not getting it.

These States will give their electoral votes to the candidate who won the popular vote.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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You are not getting it.

These States will give their electoral votes to the candidate who won the popular vote.
As others have said, this can (and will) absolutely blow up in the faces of those who are behind it.

Assuming he runs and as things stand now, Trump is virtually guaranteed a win next year.

Can you imagine the magnitude of the meltdown and horror of a state like California forking over their 55 EV's to him if he takes the Popular?

Their own rules. They better think long and hard about this. They just might get what they asked for.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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So essentially Colorado is giving up its sovereignty and the ability of their people to have a voice in Presidential elections. They are allowing Los Angeles and New York City metro areas to dictate to them. This is what happens when you let the Front Range run the state. What a horror show CO has become politically.
Rural areas are shrinking and urban areas are growing. At some point, the percentages are going to be too large to deny. Should 35% of the voters be able to control 65% of the population? What about 25%? Trump supporters keep threatening that urban populations will "dictate" except that's where the populations are. They are saying they would rather have Wheeling, West Virginia dictate and that is much worse.

It's just a matter of time before the percentage difference is too large and the Electoral College is replaced.

The fastest-shrinking cities in the U.S. are revealed as Americans abandon smaller cities in favor of major metropolises that offer more job opportunities
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ffer-jobs.html
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Florida
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As others have said, this can (and will) absolutely blow up in the faces of those who are behind it.

Assuming he runs and as things stand now, Trump is virtually guaranteed a win next year.

Can you imagine the magnitude of the meltdown and horror of a state like California forking over their 55 EV's to him if he takes the Popular?

Their own rules. They better think long and hard about this. They just might get what they asked for.
Sure, it could blow up in their faces, but if they lose the popular vote, they would have lost anyway. There is no bonus for winning by a larger margin.

I dont know why you think Trump is virtually guaranteed a win next year when more people disapprove him than approve.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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You are not getting it.

These States will give their electoral votes to the candidate who won the popular vote.
You are not getting it, there is no popular vote, none, zero, zilch. There is an electoral vote, the "popular" vote is just the tally of those who voted in the electoral, so it is inaccurate to even state that it is a popular vote.

Candidates do not run their campaigns for a popular vote, but for an electoral vote, and voters do not vote based on this but based upon an electoral vote.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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It doesn't sound like you are laughing. Quite the opposite.

However, I don't think you read well.

From the article: "It’s constitutional and some prominent conservatives are pushing for it."

FYI, authors of articles don't have any say on what is or is not consitutional. That's up to the courts to decide.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I'd rather see electoral votes be divided proportionally to the ratio as the in state vote.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You are not getting it, there is no popular vote, none, zero, zilch. There is an electoral vote, the "popular" vote is just the tally of those who voted in the electoral, so it is inaccurate to even state that it is a popular vote.

Candidates do not run their campaigns for a popular vote, but for an electoral vote, and voters do not vote based on this but based upon an electoral vote.

Nonsense! Only electors vote in the EC.
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