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Old 03-21-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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I didn't say so, I said they are considering it (it has passed one legislative chamber in NC).

Got a link to the statute being considered? I say it hasn't passed.

 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Nonsense! Only electors vote in the EC.
Playing semantics I see. The voters vote, the electors vote, the count of those who are voting is not a popular vote, but those who voted in the electoral election.

It is not, nor ever will be, a count of a "popular vote" despite the label applied to it. No one knows how a popular vote would be since there has not ever been one, nor candidates even campaign for one.

At that, it still goes against a pretty underlining concept of the US, as in state representation and involvement in the US as a country. If it gets to a point three or four cities dictate every time who the president is, and all the while crafting policies to ensure they maintain such power, the rest of the US would have little reason to stay.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Got a link to the statute being considered? I say it hasn't passed.
Feel free to say whatever you want. I know there are restrictions to Google in Moscow, so let me help you out.

It passed the NC Senate in 2007. Yes, you heard that right, North Carolina passed it 12 years ago. Not exactly a new thing. Now its on the table again, I guess because the number of member States is reaching the required number.

https://votesmart.org/bill/4308/1346...e#.XJPiophKg2w

Vote Smart's Synopsis:
Vote to pass a bill that includes North Carolina in an agreement among various states to award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular election.


Highlights:

- Takes effect when the majority of electoral votes are held by states that have joined this agreement (Article IV)
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Feel free to say whatever you want. I know there are restrictions to Google in Moscow, so let me help you out.
It's comments like this that remind me of just how utterly ignorant today's leftist have become. Please be joking.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Feel free to say whatever you want. I know there are restrictions to Google in Moscow, so let me help you out.

It passed the NC Senate in 2007. Yes, you heard that right, North Carolina passed it 12 years ago. Not exactly a new thing. Now its on the table again, I guess because the number of member States is reaching the required number.

I could be wrong about NC but generally bills passed by one house in a state legislature do not carry over to future sessions. In other words, the Senate would have to pass it again (along with the House and signed by governor) to become state law.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Colorado now joins 11 other states and the District of Columbia as part of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
Those states went for Hillary in 2016 and they're still bitter about her loss.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I support the popular vote compact but so far it has only passed in blue states.

It doesn't have any chance of actually going into effect until it passed in some red states and swing states since they need to control 270 EVs before it can go into effect.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Whatever each state decides to do is their own business.

I personally think it's a bad move on their part as it lessens their own importance.

I would consider a better move to award your electoral votes in proportion to how the state voted.

P.S. why do I get the feeling that those cheering the move may one day regret the change?
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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Looks like States can do this and it is perfectly Constitutional.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...n36kHn3Ql9Y2kQ

It’s called the Popular Vote Interstate Compact. It’s simple. A state’s electoral college votes are allocated to whoever wins the national popular vote. Period. It’s constitutional and some prominent conservatives are pushing or it.

On their own yes they can, whether they can form a compact is debatable.
 
Old 03-21-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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P.S. why do I get the feeling that those cheering the move may one day regret the change?

Imagine an election that sets up CO to be the deciding factor in the EC. Democrat wins the state but a Republican wins the popular vote.
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