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Sounds great but if they were capable of doing those types of jobs consistently (meaning every single day are able to show up for work and can do so at a stable pace) they would not be homeless.
It's one of those Catch 22's, like filing for bankruptcy (you know, where if you had the cash to pay the lawyer up front, which they require to file, you wouldn't need to file)
I think the answer is, if you do not work, you do not eat.
Wouldnt California be a fine example of free market capitalism in action for the homeless there?
Also, what is free market capitalisms response to homeless pooping in the streets and littering used needles all over the place?
17. oh, I'm sorry. I thought you asked me on a scale of 1-10, how idiotic is this thread. in a free market capitalist system, you'd have charities like you do now that help the homeless. if there is a problem, you start a charity. you get churches and communities involved. I am so sick of idiotic questions.
This is a central principle of how any advancing society operates, and it can likely be incorporated into the overall "safety net" at minimal cost; but those who display minimal responsibility deserve minimal rights, and minimal amenities.
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I can't dispute this, over the short run; the notorious Enclosure Acts were a method of forcing the peasantry into the industrial slums of the cities -- a measure made possible only by misuse of the monopoly on power granted to the modern nation-state (something most of the Lefties here can't wait to get their hands on).
But over the long run, better living standards found their way into everyone's life -- something which doesn't happen as quickly, nor as completely in a statist/collectivist society.
in other words, despite the whining and carping of those with a short span of attention, prosperity trickled down, as it always does, always will and cannot by any other means without persecution and the misuse of power.
Just because people were forced in to cities and industrial slums does not make them better off.
Friedrich Engels wrote extensively about the conditions in industrialised England, and his close friend Karl Marx also based much of his work on what he had seen in Engand, a country he spent and lot of time living in and which both Engels and Marx died in.
From what I have seen they move to Florida where they can stay outdoors all year round.
Many do, but the heat and humidity and mold and insects mean an early death here....after much suffering.
A recent story followed some homeless in the tampa area...22 died during the story.
"A majority of the dead were white men. Five were women, two were black, one was American Indian and four were Hispanic. Four were military veterans. Their average age: 51."
Many do, but the heat and humidity and mold and insects mean an early death here....after much suffering.
A recent story followed some homeless in the tampa area...22 died during the story.
"A majority of the dead were white men. Five were women, two were black, one was American Indian and four were Hispanic. Four were military veterans. Their average age: 51."
at least we know democrats and liberals won't want to propose another tax to stop this from happening. as a white man who hates taxes, I have mixed emotions.
17. oh, I'm sorry. I thought you asked me on a scale of 1-10, how idiotic is this thread. in a free market capitalist system, you'd have charities like you do now that help the homeless. if there is a problem, you start a charity. you get churches and communities involved. I am so sick of idiotic questions.
Wouldn't it have helped in the new Tax law didn't do away with charitable deductions for most filers?
A society needs to tune their policies in the right ways to address their problems. Perhaps even more tax credits could have been given for certain charities???
Wouldn't it have helped in the new Tax law didn't do away with charitable deductions for most filers?
A society needs to tune their policies in the right ways to address their problems. Perhaps even more tax credits could have been given for certain charities???
Instead, we get them for corporations....
that really has nothing to do with the question or the thread.
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