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Old 03-24-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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^this mindset is unconscionable
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That's not true, a lot of us (myself included) have insurance, but it has high copays and deductibles, so you still have to pay big $$$ at point of use, which almost defeats the purpose of paying for insurance
LOL. You must have an Obamacare plan. How's that affordability working out for you?
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Old 03-24-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's not true, a lot of us (myself included) have insurance, but it has high copays and deductibles, so you still have to pay big $$$ at point of use, which almost defeats the purpose of paying for insurance
LOL. You must have an Obamacare plan. How's that affordability working out for you?
Excellent point!
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Old 03-24-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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A third of GoFundMe requests are for Medical Bills: Charitable site reveals need for universal healthcare
I'm good with funding health care via voluntary donations. It lets those who constantly push the need for some to pay for others to put their money where their mouths are.
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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we should, everybody should pay for their own.....
That's not single payer and you know it
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Have you ever thought that if you got the damn government out of it, get rid of all of those regulations, and have an actual free market, that the prices would plummet?

No, because it's not that the left wants "cheap" healthcare for all, they want free for them at the added ridiculously high expense to taxpayers.
Healthcare is free market now in the US and its a absolute disaster. We need to adopt a universal system.
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Have you ever thought that if you got the damn government out of it, get rid of all of those regulations, and have an actual free market, that the prices would plummet?

No, because it's not that the left wants "cheap" healthcare for all, they want free for them at the added ridiculously high expense to taxpayers.
Poor people still couldn't afford to see a doctor if a doctor's visit declined to $50.
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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True health insurance would be great. But we don't have that. What insurance has become is a pre-paid medical plan and since medical providers know there is plenty of sunk cost in the kitty, which YOU have contributed, they are going to milk every cent of that, and then take actions to ensure that you pony up even more. They will extract whatever they can get.

So the solution is to put NOTHING in the kitty. No guaranteed source of funds....THEN the providers will lower their prices to compete for scarce healthcare dollars. That doesn't happen today because they have a captive audience that has already walked in and said, " I have X to spend"...well guess what the minimum fee is gonna be??

Can all you bright folks figure that out?

Good for YOU!

Now, act like the bright folks you are and STOP being stupid!
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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we should, everybody should pay for their own.....
And if the poor can pay for their medical needs, then they must learn to accept being sick as a daily way of life?
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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For those saying pay for your own...

How much money did you make when you were 23? How much did you have in savings?

6 months of cancer treatment cost $500,000. Even if it was theoretically reduced because of the "free market" (unlikely, as I had a rare cancer), 1/5 of that cost would have still been close to triple my fresh-out-of-college salary. And that was just initial treatment, not any of the follow up care or treatment for side effects from treatment.

The "free market" has seen insulin dramatically increase over the past 5 to 10 years. How many of you could have afforded $1000 a month JUST for insulin if you were a type I diabetic in your 20s?
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Houston
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For those saying pay for your own...

How much money did you make when you were 23? How much did you have in savings?

6 months of cancer treatment cost $500,000. Even if it was theoretically reduced because of the "free market" (unlikely, as I had a rare cancer), 1/5 of that cost would have still been close to triple my fresh-out-of-college salary. And that was just initial treatment, not any of the follow up care or treatment for side effects from treatment.

The "free market" has seen insulin dramatically increase over the past 5 to 10 years. How many of you could have afforded $1000 a month JUST for insulin if you were a type I diabetic in your 20s?

They're too blinded by right wing propaganda to see your point. They're gone. We don't need them to get single payer in this country. The support for it is growing exponentially.
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