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Old 03-25-2019, 05:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So take it from the owners?

Do you know how much a combine costs these days?
Unfortunately yes, about a half million.
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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So take it from the owners?

Do you know how much a combine costs these days?
That's the problem, its so expensive to operate that small farms sell out to big food companies to stay alive.

If production didn't need to be scaled to such large proportions, people would be fine.
https://www.machinerypete.com/harvesting/combines
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I'm from the plains States, still have a ranch/farm. 1st off it is a crap living unless you can scale big. It costs a LOT of money to run a farm. Equipment is expensive and you'll be in it easy 200 grand before you know it on any scale.

That' doesn't scare people though and from the Rockies to the Appalachians there are millions of farmers plugging away on small farms. Mine is 1500 acres and it keeps us plenty busy.

Small farms can't produce the income to stay afloat unless you've paid it off already.
That's the problem, production and land costs are so high so small farms can't survive without selling to big food companies.

That means even regular farms are operated by corporations if not owned directly. Now if market demand didn't require farmers to produce so much and rather have it be part of a community environment, then you wouldn't have these problems.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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That's the problem, production and land costs are so high so small farms can't survive without selling to big food companies.

That means even regular farms are operated by corporations if not owned directly. Now if market demand didn't require farmers to produce so much and rather have it be part of a community environment, then you wouldn't have these problems.
You would have a massive new set of problems.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I have several relatives who raise cattle and do pretty well.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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You can buy frozen bison meat at Sprouts Market. It's on sale every so often. I think Trader Joe's might sell it, too.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3cMgFr2xQ

Bison kept the grass fields healthy and offered Natives food and building material. The savage Americans slaughtered them for market demand and the evil American consumer took it all for their high living standards.

Damn them all.
Damn who, the Bison ? Bison taste good,you ever had any ? Not all Natives hunted Bison.Some fished ,planted crops..You should get out more..
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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Cheese is great, wine is great, and meat is great.

The growers and hunters should be proud of the food they produce, but it should be done with respect to the land, not because some corporation organized mass slaughter on land they don't live to process it to the mindless consumer.

The Bison kept the grasslands healthy and all who lived their benefited from them and understood their value. Someone who doesn't live their and just pays to be a corporate consumer should have no control over the land.
And you should learn how to spell.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Damn who, the Bison ? Bison taste good,you ever had any ? Not all Natives hunted Bison.Some fished ,planted crops..You should get out more..
It’s great to have a diverse range of food sources. Natives have none of that as their land isn’t fertile and their game is nonexistent.

Elsewhere all this production is utilized by corporate investors which takes away control from locals.
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Old 03-25-2019, 07:00 PM
 
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What, no love for the passenger pigeon?
The last passenger pigeon died at The Cincinnati Zoo
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