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if we don't abandon ACA and the current insurance scheme we will eventually end up with a single payer system which is in effect an insurance scheme run by the government....that cant even run the freaking post office....
we have death panels today because we have insurance companies in charge of healthcare.
we will have death panels in charge tomorrow if we turn this over to single payer government run healthcare.
we need to blow the system up, and create a system where there are actual doctors and patients being in charge of health care.
its doable. but we wont do it because no one wants to fix this problem. there is too much money and power out there for the taking by having this problem. there is too much fear among those who might really lean toward fixing the problem.
McConnell announced today that he will wait for Trump's plan. The last time McConnell waited for Trump the Govt was shut down for 35 days.
Trump has no plan as usual
Yes, I don’t consider McConnell a funny guy but his response was hilarious. He basically said to Trump “sure, buddy, you get together with Speaker Pelosi, hammer out this wonderful new plan, and then you can get back to me”. Major put-down.
That said, premiums, deductibles and drug costs are way too expensive. At the very least, the income level for subsidies for singles and families need to be at least doubled. Just not sustainable for the middle class paying a huge amount of money every month for health insurance. There should also be a catastrophic option offered to everyone at the level they choose.
That is a terrible analogy. When it comes to health care, anyone is susceptible to getting sick or injured at any time. If you don't drive a car you are not at risk of having a car accident. You may get hit by a car and if the driver of the car doesn't have insurance you are screwed if you don't have your own. Everyone should have health insurance -because every one of us is at risk.
I think you've missed the point.
If the idea that costs are reduced simply by mandating people to purchase it--then it shouldn't be a problem, regardless of whether we're talking about healthcare or cars. If it's for the "good of society" then it shouldn't be a problem.
And to the specifics of your point--while we all have "risks" we all do not have equal "risks." I should not have to pay for you being at a a higher "risk" than me--you should only be responsible for your own risk.
I don't give a rodent's rectum whether the GOP has a plan. I care that the DNC, as usual, screwed the working class in order to buy the votes of the poor. Obamacare needs to go away and the government needs to get their greedy paws off of healthcare. There has never been a government program which couldn't be done cheaper and more effectively by the free market. Want the cost of health insurance to go down? Open up the market. Want the cost of health care to go down? Abolish insurance altogether and get rid of the extra 4 people in every doctor's office that do nothing but deal with insurance companies. Anyone who thinks that more government involvement will do anything other than inflate prices has never read a history book and/or has the reasoning skills of an 8-year-old.
I have no idea what you are calling "free market" in relation to healthcare, but Medicare overhead is about 2-3% in contrast to the insurance companies overhead of 15-20%.
Then you say to "abolish" insurance but keep the government out, so basically direct transactions between patients and providers, is this right? So, say you need 1 mil cancer treatment, you go in, write the 1 mil. check and get it?
For many reasons free market does not work for healthcare. One important reason being that people are averse to dying. One should not have a problem not buying a new and shiny phone, if it is "too expensive", but most will get a needed life-saving treatment regardless of the cost.
My husband has had Medicare for some years now. We've never had one issue w/ it or coverage. We have, however, had plenty w/ his secondary, which is private insurance. You can pound your fist all day about "government run" insurance, but until you have it and see how it works you don't understand much.
Why is this is a good thing? Why is giving people the option for a stripped-down version a bad thing? Let me guess, you want them to either:
- Don't have insurance
- Pay a boatload of money for insurance with sky-high deductibles?
What have they been presented with from the GOP that is affordable and logical? Links please.
Not a thing, but sometimes that isn't such a bad thing. Look what we got with the ACA?
The F-35? Ford Class Carrier? Sometimes it's better to wait and be patient than to rush into something so complicated. The Dems rushed the ACA through, they had to threaten and bribe members of their own party to vote for it. As a result we got a really bad piece of legislation. The damned web site cost is over 5 billion... Talk about a porksters dream come true.
We could have studied what Australia and Germany and other successful programs have and reapplied. But, No it is better to spend billions just on a website.
Not a thing, but sometimes that isn't such a bad thing. Look what we got with the ACA?
The F-35? Ford Class Carrier? Sometimes it's better to wait and be patient than to rush into something so complicated. The Dems rushed the ACA through, they had to threaten and bribe members of their own party to vote for it. As a result we got a really bad piece of legislation. The damned web site cost is over 5 billion... Talk about a porksters dream come true.
We could have studied what Australia and Germany and other successful programs have and reapplied. But, No it is better to spend billions just on a website.
I and millions more like me are able to have affordable insurance through the ACA. If and when there is a better alternative, I'm all for it. Why haven't the GOP been working on an alternative all these years? It's because many of their constituents have the ACA and it's better than what was out there and they know it. That's why they're all freaked out about Trump talking about repealing and replacing it, which he will never do, BTW. First, because he has no idea "how complicated healthcare is." And if he doesn't have someone putting it together for him, like McConnell has refused to do, he's dead in the water because he sure as hell doesn't have the brains to do it.
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