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Old 03-28-2019, 07:22 PM
 
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You still won't answer the question.

This is about a sign that says only people of a certain color are allowed to attend a public meeting. Either it is wrong for every color to put up such a sign or it isn't. Which side of this fence are you on? Stop deflecting with all your other nonsense.

No it's not wrong if a race of people are trying to take responsibility for their recovery from centuries of racism. There are extenuating circumstances. If you don't want black people to take responsibility for their problems, alone, then allow others and the government to add dollars to the cause. Then everyone can come to the meetings.

 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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No it's not wrong if a race of people are trying to take responsibility for their recovery from centuries of racism. There are extenuating circumstances. If you don't want black people to take responsibility for their problems, alone, then allow others and the government to add dollars to the cause. Then everyone can come to the meetings.
For the law the bold is all that matters. The rest of your "explanation" doesn't.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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White reporters were denied entry

It's that *diversity, inclusion, equality, and tolerance* in action! Haven't you had your mandatory diversity training yet??
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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They are not obligated to invite "all" the public in taking responsibility for black problems.
They weren’t there to “fix” or take responsibility for black problems (and I contend there is no such thing as “black” problems since problems know no color and are not exclusive to one or another population). They were there to discuss who they wanted to support for mayor. Maybe there was discussion of how potential candidates would address issues. If so, that again is important to ALL the public. And if you invite press to attend and report on the meeting, invite ALL the press so the citizenry at large can learn about the candidates and their positions. Isn’t a well informed electorate a good thing?
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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For the law the bold is all that matters. The rest of your "explanation" doesn't.

Fine. I just don't want to hear white people talking about blacks should take responsibility for black problems and stop trying to hold whites responsible.....because obviously you don't want blacks to do what they feel they need to do.


Again, my argument is to point out that whites can't expect and defer the responsibility of black problems to blacks....and not expect blacks not to achieve that via discriminating in favor of blacks. Implicit to FOCUS (blacks solving black problems) is discrimination against things out of focus. If you want a seat at the table in the solving of black problems, then you have a seat at the responsibility to fix those problems as well.

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Old 03-28-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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this would be a hoot if white people had all white..no blacks allowed.... civic meetings....to influence elections

IS is trying to turn this into some higher calling BS....

They are meeting because there's more that one black person running for office...if they split their vote...they are afraid the white guy will win again

The only 'responsibility' they are pushing is getting a black mayor again....

The white mayor is the first white mayor they've had in 20 years......at least 20 years blacks have been running it.....
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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this would be a hoot if white people had all white..no blacks allowed.... civic meetings....to influence elections
Racism only applies to the evil white people. Everyone else is exempt. I learn it every year in my mandatory diversity training.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:45 PM
 
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this would be a hoot if white people had all white..no blacks allowed.... civic meetings....to influence elections

IS is trying to turn this into some higher calling BS....

They are meeting because there's more that one black person running for office...if they split their vote...they are afraid the white guy will win again

The only 'responsibility' they are pushing is getting a black mayor again....

The white mayor is the first white mayor they've had in 20 years......at least 20 years blacks have been running it.....

It would be a "hoot" as well as what was true for 90% of this countries history. 2 and 3 cookies for whites...and none or 1 for blacks....for 3 centuries. As soon as blacks get 2 cookies and whites get 1...whites go crazy. How are we supposed to ever catch up on cookies if we go 1 for 1 from hence forth?
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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No it's not wrong if a race of people are trying to take responsibility for their recovery from centuries of racism. There are extenuating circumstances. If you don't want black people to take responsibility for their problems, alone, then allow others and the government to add dollars to the cause. Then everyone can come to the meetings.

I can understand the meeting being restricted to the black community if that's what they want to do. They want to hear the concerns and ideas of the black community without input from others concerning problems they deem theirs.

OK, sure. I can go along with that.

But what does keeping non-black press out have to do with that? The purpose of the press is not to butt in and tell people what their problems are or how to fix them, or to participate in the meeting in any other way.

The press are just there to observe and report on happenings of interest to the entire community. A mayoral campaign meeting, whatever the focus, is the concern of every member of the mayoral candidate's constituency, which in Savannah, Georgia is only 55%.

It is the right of the Savannah mayor, whoever that may be, to listen to his constituents and their concerns as a whole or as sub-groups with special interests like in this meeting. It is the right of sub-groups to invite whom they want to participate in such meetings.

But the press are not participants. You want to hold a secret meeting? Fine. Then keep the press out. All of them.
 
Old 03-28-2019, 07:55 PM
 
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It would be a "hoot" as well as what was true for 90% of this countries history.
not really....democrats didn't start bankrolling that element of blacks that far back
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