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Old 04-19-2019, 11:32 PM
 
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Brexit here in the UK and Trump in the USA. Populism has truly taken over the most populous and powerful countries in the Anglosphere that were once looked up to. Why has this happened? If you look at Trump and Brexit, the gatherings are mostly comprised of older generation white people. Why did the most privileged group in society feel the need to push for change?

I guess that's why such people (angry older white males) are afraid of people like Heidi Allen, Jess Philips here in the UK and AOC in the USA. They represent a threat to the real 'establishment'.
Does not even make sense.

Everything you listed, Brexit and Trump, are the result of democratic forces, so you are saying because people do not vote the way you want them to vote, that is now a road to fascism? What logic is that?

The fascism I see here is people like you wanting to dismiss democracy when the vote does not go your way.
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Old 04-20-2019, 03:21 AM
 
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Oh yes, fascism always starts with giving people more rights and freedom. Once blind but now I see...
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:57 PM
 
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Because most populists are older white males

That is a problem.

Now, how to deal with the older white male segment of the world. Any suggestions for a permanent solution?
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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Does not even make sense.

Everything you listed, Brexit and Trump, are the result of democratic forces, so you are saying because people do not vote the way you want them to vote, that is now a road to fascism? What logic is that?

The fascism I see here is people like you wanting to dismiss democracy when the vote does not go your way.
"Liberals and progressives" want to remove the 300+ year old electoral college because it's not "fair".
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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That is a problem.

Now, how to deal with the older white male segment of the world. Any suggestions for a permanent solution?
People that complain of older white males should simply travel to other countries such as Bangladesh to see how it really is under the old brown male.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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BTW fascism is characterized by selecting a demographic of millions of people, making broad based negative generalizations, then creating a meme that they are unacceptable.
Fascism was actually popularized by Mussolini. And nothing you said applies to Mussolini's Italy.


The rise of fascism resulted from a dissatisfaction with capitalism and democracy. Democracy because it was divisive and dysfunctional(IE it couldn't get anything done). And Capitalism because it mismanaged the country's resources and produced a number of social-problems.


As the saying goes "Mussolini made the trains run on time".
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Fascists don't cut taxes and government regulations, push prison reform measures, want to get of or avoid wars, etc.

A fascist would chose to use executive privilege during an investigation.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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It is far more likely that Trump is the precursor to fascism.
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Facism is basically the state, controlling, but not owning, the means of production. Now ask which of our major parties prefers that more.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Facism is basically the state, controlling, but not owning, the means of production. Now ask which of our major parties prefers that more.
Fascism is better described as a "public/private partnership". A synergy between corporations and the state for the purpose of growing the economy and serving the national-interests.


Both major parties are basically fascist.
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