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Old 03-31-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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We're always told by Communists that Communism never succeeded because "it was never implemented properly" or something to that effect.

This feels a lot like the arguments that people make for Gender Equality and other variations of Equality Of Outcome.

For example, I heard a statistic recently that 147/150 of the unicorn startup companies (startups valued at over $1 billion) today are founded by men and the remaining 3/150 are co-founded by husband-wife couples.

This is because "we still don't have equality of opportunity"?
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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"Social justice" is just re-branded communism--just like "MAGA."
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Social justice is a concept created by people who demand equal outcome, instead of just equal opportunity. The push for equal opportunity did not produce the results demanded fast enough, so now they want to exercise greater control over our government and society, so they can dictate results.

It does mirror communism in many ways, when you stop and think about it.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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"Social justice" is just re-branded communism--just like "MAGA."
Social justice and communism force one group of people at gunpoint to sacrifice for the other.

MAGA doesn’t.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Social justice and communism force one group of people at gunpoint to sacrifice for the other.

MAGA doesn’t.
Import taxes, farm bailouts due to said import taxes (redistributionist schemes funded by stolen income), forced land confiscations for a wall and pipelines, gun accessory bans...

...all communist ideology forced on people at gunpoint by the State.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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Social justice is a concept created by people who demand equal outcome, instead of just equal opportunity. The push for equal opportunity did not produce the results demanded fast enough, so now they want to exercise greater control over our government and society, so they can dictate results.

It does mirror communism in many ways, when you stop and think about it.
And the Democratic Party is currently having an arms race over who can come up with the most radical SJ platform to impose equality of outcome. Very frightening. I will be voting Republican in 2020.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:46 AM
 
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Social justice is a concept created by people who demand equal outcome, instead of just equal opportunity. The push for equal opportunity did not produce the results demanded fast enough, so now they want to exercise greater control over our government and society, so they can dictate results.

It does mirror communism in many ways, when you stop and think about it.
It's not full-on Marxism. Marx goes further than equality of outcome and also demands unequal inputs. "From those with the greatest ability, to those with the greatest need."

Equality of outcome says nothing about inputs, although I'm sure a lot of believers in it just expect the more productive to keep working.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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No more than MAGA is the rebranding of Mussolini and fascism.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Social justice and communism force one group of people at gunpoint to sacrifice for the other.

MAGA doesn’t.



Yes.

The way I see it is that the Social Justice is another way of standing up to the "Have" to give to the "Have Nots".

Social Justice is about Robin Hood as in Robbing from the Rich and Giving to the Poor whether they deserve it or not.



The concept of Communism is very similar to Socialism where the wealth is spread equally to all that usually keeps them miserable and crushes any dreams of moving up in society because it is nearly impossible unless of course you know someone at the top.



We should be concerned for the future of America because it is the Left that likes to dance around the concepts of Communism, Socialism, Social Justice etc.. and these are all things that fly in the face of what America was founded on and that is Freedom.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Import taxes, farm bailouts due to said import taxes (redistributionist schemes funded by stolen income), forced land confiscations for a wall and pipelines, gun accessory bans...

...all communist ideology forced on people at gunpoint by the State.

Farmers in America provide a ton of food for the world. Take that away, and hundreds of millions of people will starve to death. Don't belittle the American farmer, whose entire way of life demands sacrifice. These folks deal with hardships that most of us would never tolerate. It's no surprise that farmers have some of the highest suicide rates among occupations. Farmers deserve our help in their moment of need. The benefit to you is cheap, readily available food. Be thankful, not hateful.


Import taxes have always been a part of America. So if you think this makes America communist, than it has always been communist. You seem to believe that any form of organized, regulated society is communist, which means your logic is flawed by most people's standard. You can believe what you want, but don't expect others to subscribe to your ideology.
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