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Old 04-01-2019, 07:56 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What are you talking about? You apparently didn't bother to read what this was about.

There is no Obama "regime change" nonsense.


You guys, as demonstrated by this topic, are just going on yet again today with your "Orange Man Bad" BS. And wrong yet again.

I'm talking about your allegation of the NYT being thoroughly discredited which is laughable coming from a supporter of a thoroughly discredited compulsively lying politician.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I guess you missed the memo that Khashoggi was an American citizen.
Nope.

He was a citizen of Saudi Arabia and very critical of the royal kingdom.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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No, he wasn't.
My bad, I admit it!
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What promise was broken? And please be specific.




<crickets>

For starters, how about the 'far better than the ACA' plan he said time after time after time would be in place soon after taking office?



BTW, sorry you hear crickets when none are around.
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Hopefully he's going to cut off their foreign aid?

Trump’s threat to cut US aid to South Africa – the real issues
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...e-real-issues/
From your link:
South Africa “ a vital strategic ally which has powerful political allies in Asia, Europe and Latin America.

Can you say the De Beers Group, now owned by Anglo American plc, based in London.

In terms of financial aid, $511 million, mostly AIDS relief.

https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ZAF

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Old 04-01-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Saudi Arabia has donated nearly USD $33billion in global aid in the past 10 years.

The Kingdom has made 489 financial contributions totaling $929 million to UN organizations, international entities, and humanitarian regional funds.

From 2007 to February 2017, Saudi Arabia disbursed $32.65 billion to 999 projects in 78 countries. These projects were implemented by 150 partners including international and local organisations, as well as the governments of recipient countries, SPA reported on Tuesday.

Aid projects were implemented across the five continents, with Asian countries receiving $21 billion or 66.33 percent of the total aid appropriated. African countries received $9.76 billion or 30.76 percent of the total aid, Europe $379.0 million or 1.19 percent, North America $376.3 million or 1.19 percent and Central Asia $170.3 million or 0.54 percent.

Such horrible people!

So tell us, in your grand view of morality and justice, just HOW much $$$ is required to justify the murder and dismemberment of a journalist for merely writing unkind things about the Crown Prince? Is this like the Muslim version of the Catholic Church selling indulgences in the past, 'pay your $$$ and do what you want'?
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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The land needs to be redistributed. It was stolen, it was misappropriated, and Black Africans were denied land in certain areas up until the mid-90s.

What we have is an injustice, and just ending apartheid does not end the injustice. It's like a thief regularly stealing from you and then suddenly saying he won't steal from you anymore. That's not justice. At the bare minimum he needs to give back what was stolen - and that's still not justice since he hasn't been punished yet.

The countries that can compensate white farmers are the Netherlands and Britain. They're responsible for this mess, and the South African government should not be on the hook for paying land that was stolen from them. That's like a thief selling back your stolen merchandise to you.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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The land needs to be redistributed. It was stolen, it was misappropriated, and Black Africans were denied land in certain areas up until the mid-90s.

What we have is an injustice, and just ending apartheid does not end the injustice. It's like a thief regularly stealing from you and then suddenly saying he won't steal from you anymore. That's not justice. At the bare minimum he needs to give back what was stolen - and that's still not justice since he hasn't been punished yet.

The countries that can compensate white farmers are the Netherlands and Britain. They're responsible for this mess, and the South African government should not be on the hook for paying land that was stolen from them. That's like a thief selling back your stolen merchandise to you.
You don't know what your talking about. Stop while your behind.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:33 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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It is if we are giving them money...

See Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras.
Well stop giving them money and dont fly down there. We save twice its a 2 for.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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So tell us, in your grand view of morality and justice, just HOW much $$$ is required to justify the murder and dismemberment of a journalist for merely writing unkind things about the Crown Prince? Is this like the Muslim version of the Catholic Church selling indulgences in the past, 'pay your $$$ and do what you want'?
Unknown and not our business. It didn't happen on our soil and wasn't done by our CIA (for a change).

It happened in Turkey. It's between Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
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