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Old 04-02-2019, 06:35 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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None of our business. It is a waste of money and resources to involve ourselves in any way what so ever in S. Africa.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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Sos Trump feels the USA needs to protect rich, white South Africans but those seek asylum from brutal living conditions are just a nuisance -- don't let them in, don't help them with aid and in fact make it more miserable where they live so that even more may flee.

Can't argue with that kind of logic can we -- because there is no logic or reasoning.

Except for -- and I really wasn't big on this at first -- but it seems to Trump brown bad, white good.
Poor South Africans too. Glad to help you understand better!
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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The land needs to be redistributed. It was stolen, it was misappropriated, and Black Africans were denied land in certain areas up until the mid-90s.

What we have is an injustice, and just ending apartheid does not end the injustice. It's like a thief regularly stealing from you and then suddenly saying he won't steal from you anymore. That's not justice. At the bare minimum he needs to give back what was stolen - and that's still not justice since he hasn't been punished yet.

The countries that can compensate white farmers are the Netherlands and Britain. They're responsible for this mess, and the South African government should not be on the hook for paying land that was stolen from them. That's like a thief selling back your stolen merchandise to you.
Much of the land in present day SA was unpopulated or sparsely populated.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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What disaster? Have you been to Zimbabwe (formerly known as Rhodesia) or have you just read salacious media reports?

Unlike you, I have, many times. Latest time was October of last year.

When Mugabe decided to reappropriate the land (the wise thing), a lot of White businesses chose to punish the economy of Zimbabwe by pulling up stakes and taking their investment dollars elsewhere. But the average Zimbabwen was poor before and after, had no impact on their life.

Nowadays Zimbabwe has largely recovered (albeit last year there was a currency crisis), and investors are coming back. Zimbabwe is in a far better state now where its own people control the resources than White colonialists (or their offspring).

I'm sorry, but White people don't have carte blanche to steal people's resources.
So growing food is stealing resources? Zimbabwe is a sh!thole.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:16 AM
 
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Much of the land in present day SA was unpopulated or sparsely populated.
SA is still sparsely populated outside the major cities, what's your point?

Do you think Whites are entitled to that land? They came, they fought wars, and took that land by force. No one welcomed them with open arms. Then they ruled SA by force and apartheid ensuring the choicest of lands would just go to White people.

White people have no business in SA. It's just that simple.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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SA is still sparsely populated outside the major cities, what's your point?

Do you think Whites are entitled to that land? They came, they fought wars, and took that land by force. No one welcomed them with open arms. Then they ruled SA by force and apartheid ensuring the choicest of lands would just go to White people.

White people have no business in SA. It's just that simple.
Even the ones born there? How racist are you exactly?
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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Even the ones born there? How racist are you exactly?
Yes, even the one's born. If their home countries want to compensate them (Netherlands, and the UK), then so be it. It's not South Africa's job to compensate their colonists or the sons and daughters of their colonizers.

If that makes me racist, I'm 110% RACIST
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Why any white person is still in SA with the handwriting on the wall...

Sad, but they are on the for sure losing side.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Yes, even the one's born. If their home countries want to compensate them (Netherlands, and the UK), then so be it. It's not South Africa's job to compensate their colonists or the sons and daughters of their colonizers.

If that makes me racist, I'm 110% RACIST
How many times did those savages steal the land from each other before the white folks arrived and actually built a society? So it’s just skin color for you? Doesn’t matter what flavor of Blacks own the land?
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:32 AM
 
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How many times did those savages steal the land from each other before the white folks arrived and actually built a society? So it’s just skin color for you? Doesn’t matter what flavor of Blacks own the land?
How many times did savage europeans steal the land from each other in Europe?

I'm sorry, no to colonization. You white supremacists enjoy stealing other people's resources and then crying about when people demand justice.
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