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Old 04-07-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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Then please explain how it grows if it's not a life. Dead things don't grow. It grows because it's a life. It starts growing at conception.
Crystals grow. They are not alive.

Viruses grow. They are not alive.

Mountains, glaciers, fires, etc.

Growth is not the definition of life. If it was you would be against tumors being removed. They grow.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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The problem with anti-choicers logic, is they can predict the future lives for children.

The problem with Planned Parenthood is the name: parenting doesn't have to be planned for a child to be loved.

The worst of all is insisting women stay pregnant so their offspring can be adopted, because that treats both as commodities. This is disgraceful - basically just a step above human trafficking.
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I know this really excites proabortioners because babies must die at all costs. Can't have examples of what actually happens when babies live and have happy, productive lives.

Sick. Sick. Sick.
Maybe it isn't important to you, but a baby should be wanted and much loved by its parents when born. Too bad a law can't be passed to make sure that happens every time.
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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Maybe it isn't important to you, but a baby should be wanted and much loved by its parents when born. Too bad a law can't be passed to make sure that happens every time.
Because murder is the better option. Got it.
Should children with parents they don't meet standards be murdered also?

It's a very simple idea. You do not get to murder someone because you feel like it.

Everything else? Smoke and mirrors.
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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The problem with anti-choicers logic, is they can predict the future lives for children.

The problem with Planned Parenthood is the name: parenting doesn't have to be planned for a child to be loved.

The worst of all is insisting women stay pregnant so their offspring can be adopted, because that treats both as commodities. This is disgraceful - basically just a step above human trafficking.
Well, no.

Planned Parenthood does nothing to assist women who want to become mothers. That is clear. They offer abortions. They will happily murder the baby for you.
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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What personal business is it of yours to be pro or anti-abortion, unless you are the father or mother of the unborn baby?
Even the revered Roe v Wade acknowledged the state, society in general that includes me, has an important and compelling interest in protecting potential human life. That doesn't mean everyone should or does care one way or another. Roe happened to choose a particular point in time, viability, when the state can impose legal restrictions.
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Well, no.

Planned Parenthood does nothing to assist women who want to become mothers. That is clear. They offer abortions. They will happily murder the baby for you.
Uh huh, and have you ever been to Planned Parenthood? My guess: no.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Well, no.

Planned Parenthood does nothing to assist women who want to become mothers. That is clear. They offer abortions. They will happily murder the baby for you.
If a test is positive, they steer the woman for prenatal care if she wants to remain pregnant. Hope this helps, maybe you can volunteer sometime.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I know this really excites proabortioners because babies must die at all costs. Can't have examples of what actually happens when babies live and have happy, productive lives.

Sick. Sick. Sick.
You really think all those unwanted pregnancies would result in babies with "happy, productive lives"?

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2012-11012-006

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Well, no.

Planned Parenthood does nothing to assist women who want to become mothers. That is clear. They offer abortions. They will happily murder the baby for you.
PP provides contraceptives so that women can plan when to get pregnant. That is certainly assisting women who want to become mothers.

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If a test is positive, they steer the woman for prenatal care if she wants to remain pregnant. Hope this helps, maybe you can volunteer sometime.
Also, a few PP centers offer prenatal care.

They will even refer patients with fertility problems to appropriate experts.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ed-infertility

"You may also be able to get fertility treatments, or help finding a fertility specialist in your area, from your local Planned Parenthood health center."
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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If a test is positive, they steer the woman for prenatal care if she wants to remain pregnant. Hope this helps, maybe you can volunteer sometime.
9,055 prenatal services [which doesn't mean that many different women]. 2,831 adoption referrals.
332,757 abortions.
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