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Old 04-14-2019, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people. It's machines, owned and operated by the billionaires you idolize. The "job creators," I think you've been trained to call them.

You're at war, Americans. You're in the middle of a full-scale class war, and most of you aren't smart enough to understand it. And you will lose, because you're not even smart enough to understand who the enemy is.


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But here's the reality: We are undergoing the greatest economic transformation in our history, and we are dealing with it by pretending nothing is happening. I have two young children, and I have no intention of leaving the country in shambles for them.
We need to wake up to the fact that it is not immigrants who are causing economic dislocations. It is technology and an evolving economy that is pushing more and more Americans to the sidelines.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/opini...ang/index.html
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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The reality is that stagnant productivity is a rarely-discussed factor in the erosion of the middle class. There was a study publicized a year ago, although published in 2010, which explained that we have been mismeasuring manufacturing productivity by lumping in the productivity gains from computer hardware, which have been exponential, into the wider manufacturing sector. When you strip out advances in computer hardware, manufacturing productivity has been slow-growing since the late 70s, about in line with real wage gains since then. So by lumping together the computer industry with other industries, our statistics masked the productivity stagnation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...usan-houseman/

As to why manufacturing productivity stagnated, there are many potential explanations but I think the decline in public school quality is a major one.

The two classic explanations for a declining middle class are automation and offshoring, but a third is just as compelling: the middle class is failing to grow its skills over time.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people. It's machines, owned and operated by the billionaires you idolize. The "job creators," I think you've been trained to call them.

You're at war, Americans. You're in the middle of a full-scale class war, and most of you aren't smart enough to understand it. And you will lose, because you're not even smart enough to understand who the enemy is.




https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/opini...ang/index.html



...well, seeing none of us are smart enough.....what's the plan?
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people. It's machines, owned and operated by the billionaires you idolize. The "job creators," I think you've been trained to call them.

You're at war, Americans. You're in the middle of a full-scale class war, and most of you aren't smart enough to understand it. And you will lose, because you're not even smart enough to understand who the enemy is.




https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/opini...ang/index.html
In reality, it's both. Flooding our Country with illegals destroying labor markets and tech countering with automation and offshoring costs. Labor unions are part of it too.

A good example is a township that has fire depts that are both union labor and another one that's a volunteer one.

You can't have illegal labor and union labor (or volunteer) and expect them to co-exist. Automation is the result. A good example of that is machines that replace ag labor.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:14 PM
 
Location: PSL
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people. It's machines, owned and operated by the billionaires you idolize. The "job creators," I think you've been trained to call them.

You're at war, Americans. You're in the middle of a full-scale class war, and most of you aren't smart enough to understand it. And you will lose, because you're not even smart enough to understand who the enemy is.




https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/14/opini...ang/index.html
John Connor, when does skynet go live?
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Not much will get done in response to what automation is doing to the economy until it brings on a Great Depression. It will be caused by so many people getting laid off by automation that they they won't be able to afford the many products and services automation puts out. You can't walk in a store, just use your phone to grab everything you want and walk out without having money in the bank or sufficient credit. When automation brings on a Great Depression, a lot more people will want to talk seriously about starting a Universal Basic Income to overcome it.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:54 PM
 
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people.
No, it's educated immigrants and semi-literate peasants. Don't pretend that a race war is a class war. "Class" is a social construct of no biological interest. It's pointless, which is why the Bolsheviks love to use it to obscure their actual biological aims.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:21 PM
 
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lol - the Luddites have been wrong about the evils of automation in the work place for at least 200 years.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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lol - the Luddites have been wrong about the evils of automation in the work place for at least 200 years.
This time it's different. Robots will be able to fix and produce themselves. A tractor couldn't do that.
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Old 04-14-2019, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Japan
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It's not semi-literate peasants who are taking your jobs, people. It's machines,
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We need to wake up to the fact that it is not immigrants who are causing economic dislocations.
This is a false dichotomy. Both mass immigration and automation threaten workers, it isn't one or the other.
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