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What in the name of God? If you live in Texas and go to Oklahoma and some thug robs you and steals your car, Oklahoma law enforcement will investigate the crime and try to find your car and the perpetrator. You never paid a penny to Oklahoma for that did you?
Not for most folks, but they are necessary for many...I would be dead within a week without my meds
There is nothing necessary about you living (me either). When you and I die, Earth will continue to rotate on its axis and will revolve around the Sun. Everything continues just as it once did.
You and I each want to live, but that is a want, not a need.
Hunting and gathering resources are open to anyone as long as you aren't on land itself that is clearly being used by someone. Unless you get their permission of course. Animals, wood, and plants are unclaimed because they don't require human hands to be suitable for use. They are raw resources.
But those people are using that land, for hunting, resources etc, they are probably employing some forms of resource management techniques to enable hunting to be sustainable. Hunting is labor just as much as putting up a fence is labor, collecting only enough wood to ensure the future sustainability of wood supplies involves labor mixing with the land and managing that land to ensure it remains productive for those purposes.
If I then come along, clear the land and plant my crops and shoot anybody that continues to enter the land for hunting or wood gathering then am I not affecting their natural rights by doing that?
If they don't plant the next season nor use it for another reason it's no longer having an individual mixing his/her labor with it. It's up for grabs.
It is possible to abandon land/resources that have clearly been transformed by the labor of an individual which renders that land/resource back to un-privatized status.
What constitutes "abandonment" is an interesting argument but in the end private insurance would make individuals whole anyway (in the event the world rid itself of statism).
That's great. It's a start.
No. As I stated above you have exclusive right to that land as long as you are alive and homesteading/mixing your labor with it.
It's statist fiction...the legal system you speak of. Pay it no mind.
Hunting and gathering resources are open to anyone as long as you aren't on land itself that is clearly being used by someone. Unless you get their permission of course. Animals, wood, and plants are unclaimed because they don't require human hands to be suitable for use. They are raw resources.
You still own the land though because you've mixed your labor with it. It's a raw resource just like the animals, plants, and wood.
That is crazy. You can't take over land that you decide you want because it's "not being used", a private property owner has the right to not improve or cultivate their land. Adverse possession is not quite as easy as you try to make it seem Most states require continuous occupation of the land for several years, a title or deed and proof that you paid taxes on the property while living on it. You can't just be Johnny Appleseed and scatter some seeds on a piece of land and claim you own it.
There is nothing necessary about you living (me either). When you and I die, Earth will continue to rotate on its axis and will revolve around the Sun. Everything continues just as it once did.
You and I each want to live, but that is a want, not a need.
This is descending into nihilism, going down this path you'll get to the stage where natural rights don't matter either and are not necessary because we will all die at some point anyway, if you want to kill somebody just kill them. The earth will still revolve around the sun so what does it matter?
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if healthcare is a right.....then food is a right and housing is a right. That means the government has to provide food and housing for everyone, rich or poor. The government controls everything.
So the Federal Government thought that we the people deserved medical care with out regard to our ability to pay.
That's the typical leftist mentality here. They take advantage of decent people and policy in order to invent an obligation and shackle people to that obligation.
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