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Originally Posted by skeddy
state and local taxes? LMAO ... no your right, instead they place a 20% tax on goods and services you buy .... don't be a moron
that's after taking 40% of any income beyond 50,000. run that by the American people, see if they want in on that...
UK Rates are listed here -
You don't pay any tax on the first £11,850 ($15,500 USD) you earn in the UK, you then pay a basic rate of 20% up to £45,350 (around $60,000 USD), you then pay 40% up to £150,000 ($200,000 USD) and then above this figure there is a top rate of 45% on earning exceeding this amount.
For every litre of unleaded petrol bought in the UK, 61 per cent of the pump price goes to the government as fuel duty and VAT along with 59 per cent of every litre of diesel.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
Can someone opt out entirely of the NHS?
okay so you have this:
We have private healthcare in the UK for those that want it, and the cost is relatively low as most emergency care is provided by the NHS.
The main problem with private insurance is that it becomes more expensive the older you get and in terms of coverage.
As for opting out, can you opt out of paying for over 2 million prisoners or a vast military industrial complex.??
The cost of keeping someone in prison and under secure conditions is vast, whilst last time I checked the US Defence Budget had reached over $700 Billion.
We have private healthcare in the UK for those that want it, and the cost is relatively low as most emergency care is provided by the NHS.
The main problem with private insurance is that it becomes more expensive the older you get and in terms of coverage.
Not only can you have private healthcare but add together what you pay in tax towards the NHS and add it to what private healthcare costs and it would STILL be a lot less than what you would have to pay in the US! I think I can understand why, it seems (some) people in the US can't 'grasp' it though.
I consider it an overly authoritarian position antithetical to freedom. No one has the right to the labor of another.
I agree strongly that no one has a right to the labor of another. The problem with this is that if someone needs help I couldn't resist helping them. But I do not like being taken advantage of either and people who don't even try to help themselves are doing just that. People who "expect" the right to other people's labor are abusive toward others. The left who has been pushing past the limits of other peoples good nature is also taking advantage of people.
state and local taxes? LMAO ... no your right, instead they place a 20% tax on goods and services you buy .... don't be a moron
that's after taking 40% of any income beyond 50,000. run that by the American people, see if they want in on that...
State and local taxes don't exist?
Sure taxes are a little higher, but people are generally happy with that paying for the NHS and other systems, they certainly don't want to move to the US model of healthcare. The average worker pays a lot less than 40% in income taxes, a lot less than 20% of total consumer spending goes on VAT. And then property taxes are pretty low compared to much of the US, especially the coastal cities. Low taxes are not an end in themselves, its they are so low that public services suffer then most people see that as a bad thing.
Positives of the NHS
1) I pay less
2) live longer
3) Have no extra burden due to the unfortunate circumstances my Mrs finds herself in
4) Have no worries about the amount of care she may need in the future
5) The choice of using the NHS or any private alternative I choose (at a cost less than the US)
Can somebody now tell me the advantages we would have without the NHS?
Anyone?
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