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Old 04-10-2019, 06:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So now we going to argue that my abortion choice was more valid than a woman who wants to terminate a pregnancy at eight weeks?
Yes. There's a BIG difference between a medically necessary abortion and abortion for the sake of convenience because one has been irresponsible about contraception and became pregnant.
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PP provides valuable services to a low-income community that does not have the same access to care that I had and have because I am educated, well-connected, and affluent. Defunding PP is the wrong path forward, especially given our president’s determination to dismantle the ACA.
PP would be successful by ending their abortion services and sticking with women's health and contraceptive services and education. The fact that PP targets Black women for abortions instead of birth control (5 times higher abortion rate than White women) is racist and inexcusable. They're exploiting Black women for $$$$$.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm confused.

Are they ordering all convenience stores, grocery stores, Walmart, CVS, Walgreens, Duan Reade, Rite Aide, Target, etc. to halt all sales of condoms?
If that is what you got out of it, then you are very confused indeed.

I am saying contraceptives should be made more available, not less.


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PP could disappear and the only difference would be fewer abortions.
More unwanted pregnancies, - more abortions. Common sense.

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Look at how many abortions they perform. If they truly were in the business to offer "BC" they would help women NOT need abortions. Abortions rates should have DROPPED in areas where PP is located.
There would be even more without them.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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"New Report Shows Planned Parenthood Raked in $1.5 Billion in Taxpayer Funds Over 3 Years"

https://www.heritage.org/marriage-an...taxpayer-funds

That is Billion with a B. I DON'T call That "LOW hanging fruit"!
It’s low hanging fruit because PP serves the low-income community, whose needs and concerns, sadly, are more easily dismissed by our government than those with money and connections. It’s right here in this thread for all to see: women who go to clinics rather than a primary care doctor for the morning-after pill or RU-486 are having abortions “for convenience because they were irresponsible with their birth control.” That’s the message in this thread and all the others posted about abortion in the forums. Why does one group get the scarlet “A” while the other does not?
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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There are other medical clinics that are in the same areas that women can go to and receive BETTER care.

If PP disappeared, the only difference? Fewer abortions.

And if PP does such a bang up, stellar job "caring" for these women, why do so many need abortions?

I think they have proved what a colossal failure they are at providing BC and BC education.
Where?
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:50 AM
 
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Hospitals are private organizations as well. Duh. As are private universities that receive federal funding. Nevermind the private corporations that receive federal project funding.
Duh to you too. The post I responded to specifically said 'public' hospitals.

I happen to oppose the Ohio defunding law because it's based on the single fact that PP performs abortions, but it is not unconstitutional. In general, I'd support defunding PP and other 5013c's that engage in partisan political activities through a PAC or other measures, not single out one of them for a specific service it performs.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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If that is what you got out of it, then you are very confused indeed.

I am saying contraceptives should be made more available, not less.


More unwanted pregnancies, - more abortions. Common sense.

There would be even more without them.
Actually no. If the option is removed, it'd be smart to take even more precautions.

Rate would drop. When something is easily accessible? It gets used more often.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If that is what you got out of it, then you are very confused indeed.

I am saying contraceptives should be made more available, not less.


More unwanted pregnancies, - more abortions. Common sense.

There would be even more without them.
I doubt it. There are 14,000+ publicly funded health department clinics in the US that provide contraception services for free or on an income-based sliding fee scale. There are only about 700 PP clinics, which have proven they're vastly ineffective at providing contraception services and education. PP fails in that mission deliberately. Abortions are more lucrative.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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It’s low hanging fruit because PP serves the low-income community, whose needs and concerns, sadly, are more easily dismissed by our government than those with money and connections. It’s right here in this thread for all to see: women who go to clinics rather than a primary care doctor for the morning-after pill or RU-486 are having abortions “for convenience because they were irresponsible with their birth control.” That’s the message in this thread and all the others posted about abortion in the forums. Why does one group get the scarlet “A” while the other does not?
You do know why the scientists, tee hee hee HEEE funny, named it RU-486 right? They thought it was FUNNY!!!!

RU-486 = Are you for 86 (killing)? really REALLY funny, right?

If a women uses 2 forms of BC she won't get pregnant.

Isn't PP telling women that so they can fully protect themselves? No.

Abortion today is for convenience. That's it. It's not the "message" it's the truth. And it's the bulk of PP business, and this thread is about PP.
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:01 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Apparently not, since you don't understand the difference between grants and reimbursements, 501c3 and 501c4 organizations, and individual and PAC political donations.




Point to where is says anything about Grants....
Make up crap lately?
Grants given to political campaigns.... Ya, try and sell that!
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:01 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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You do know why the scientists, tee hee hee HEEE funny, named it RU-486 right? They thought it was FUNNY!!!!

RU-486 = Are you for 86 (killing)? really REALLY funny, right?

If a women uses 2 forms of BC she won't get pregnant.

Isn't PP telling women that so they can fully protect themselves? No.

Abortion today is for convenience. That's it. It's not the "message" it's the truth. And it's the bulk of PP business, and this thread is about PP.
Do you believe everything you read on the internet? RU for Roussel-Uclaf and 486 because of when mifepristone was synthesized.

Last edited by randomparent; 04-10-2019 at 07:03 AM.. Reason: Darn auto-correct
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