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One thing is for sure, women want marriage and "love" a lot more than men, and that's always been the case.
That's because woman had to face the consequences of pregnancy and illegitimate children. They were at best ruined at worst put to death. Would you want that?
Actually now that sex, pregnancy and parenthood outside of marriage isnt a big thing fewer women care about marriage, especially at a younger age.
That's because woman had to face the consequences of pregnancy and illegitimate children. They were at best ruined at worst put to death. Would you want that?
Actually now that sex, pregnancy and parenthood outside of marriage isnt a big thing fewer women care about marriage, especially at a younger age.
Well they still prioritize "love" as a big deal, just as much as they always did from what I've seen.
One thing is for sure, women want marriage and "love" a lot more than men, and that's always been the case.
Well, that depends on how you define "love".
Men probably "made up" the idea of marriage so they could make certain their womb-man isn't stolen from them. They also made up the ideas of multiple wives...Islam, Mormons, etc...and they they said, in typical male fashion, "this is the will of Gawd".
If we cast a wider net under "love", we'd say that jocks towel snapping in the locker room is love...and so many other male actions.
Well they still prioritize "love" as a big deal, just as much as they always did from what I've seen.
Normal men do too. It is a healthy state for a man to share love with a partner. It can make a man want to be a better version of himself.
What I see of MGTOW types around me (and there are a lot lately) is a kind of emotional stunting that manifests in selfishness and boorishness. It isn't a good look, it isn't healthy for them in the long run. They have plenty of money but few boundaries so they seek external sources of challenge and pride. Like a fatherless boy that misbehaves for lack of a male influence, these grown man lack a female influence. They think they can dis-respect women in society as they do internally. I have had legal run-ins with some, for the first time in my life I've had to involve police. Fortunately most police officers are family men who understand as they would not want to see their wives or daughters threatened or intimidated by a rogue who went his own way.
I guess so. Most people I know, women, men, boys, girls, old people, babies love love. Who doesnt want love?
MGTOWS and Incels want love on 4chan for their video game exploits and they want "warped love" for their trolling and hate. It's really the same thing (attention), but they haven't learned matured enough to separate out negative and positive attention.
If he’s an example of the MGTOW movement, all I can think is that we have some very emotionally-troubled men out there in the world today.
Not only today but all throughout recorded history. Which gender do you think has cased all the horrors described in wars, human trafficking, slavery, animal abuse and the list goes on? Look at the percent difference of females to males who are in prison around the world.
It's odd to me that this obvious glaring fact is not discussed more openly.
Relationships are about compromise and working together to achieve agreed upon goals. One side shouldn't dominate the relationship, and if that is the case it's probably a dysfunctional relationship. I've been with my SO for 43 years. We consider ourselves equal partners and agree on anything important. The ability to compromise helped my marriage and also helped in my work life. I was a manager for 20 years, but I considered myself part of the team and considered each member of team as valuable as I was. That concept lead to a successful 31 year career.
If you can't compromise, definitely go your own way.
That is amazing. I hope you have another 43 together. Life is too hard to go through it alone. Bless both of you.
I wonder if mansplaining is tied to MGTOW, or just an odd masculine trait. Would a man who understood or respected women do this? Maybe it is a passive aggressive way of insulting women.
Just today I was mansplained at the car wash. I use self serve wash, I was half way through rinsing and some guy pulled up behind the bay, got out of his car and thought I didn't know how to work the sprayer properly. Either he was white knighting (nice guy who really thought he could help me clean my car better) or having some fun (mocking me). But I do not think he would have thought this or said it to another man. No way. I'm kind of stunned this happened in 2019. He had no idea I wasn't an angry feminist, or maybe he didn't care and wanted to have a go. Strange stuff happening lately, men pushing back or something.
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Either he was white knighting (nice guy who really thought he could help me clean my car better) or having some fun (mocking me). But I do not think he would have thought this or said it to another man. No way. I'm kind of stunned this happened in 2019. He had no idea I wasn't an angry feminist, or maybe he didn't care and wanted to have a go. Strange stuff happening lately, men pushing back or something.