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I am not opposed to right to work laws. I am also not anti-Union. I am anti-forcing someone to pay for a benefit they didn't ask for or want.
Unions worrying about right to work laws? How many plants have closed because Unions have priced themselves out of work?
Look at the big 3. The Unions hold them in a stranglehold. 2 of them begging for federal dollars and the Unions even if it meant loosing their jobs, refused to budge.
We had the Union on 3 separate occasions try to come into our mill. 3 times they failed. They were honest, they admitted that our pay and benefits were such that the Union wouldn't be able to improve it. Their angle was with us it would help the factories that didn't pay as well.
It was no surprise that the employees pushing for a union the hardest were also known as the laziest SOB's walking. They wanted that Union protection....
It' about enforcing loyalty and integrity. RTW means employers can cut you at any time and even if they gave confidences and written statements. Also 60% of the workforce will be contract very soon. This also reduces loyalty. People don't trust one another at work anymore. IBM had a work there till you retire culture. Greed and backstabbing kicked in. Nobody cares about anybody these days. This is when society fails too.
So Republicans don't want to do a damn thing about it either. When was the last time you heard a Republican running for legislator declare that he supports ending all welfare. Instead, you'll hear the Republican pay lip service toward ending abortion. Saying that seems to be where more votes are.
This is why I would never vote for a GOP or DEM. Do nothing parties only interested in keeping power.
Unions are leeches - only operate by sucking other ppl's money (usually by force). If they were so wonderful, there'd be a line out the door to join!
I've always wondered, if unions are so good at 'running businesses' - why don't they open and operate a few of their own?
Unions could 'get a clue' and offer more association benefits, but they don't have to 'compete' for membership (and so that does not compute -- pre-Janus) so they don't - and I don't want to give them any help (ie, clues).
Maybe they'll rise to the occasion one day. Until then, bye-bye!
Why is it that other industrialized countries have managed to keep their industry jobs in country, increasing wages, increasing benefits, getting better machines and automation, while heavily unionized?
While the US is stuck in a race to the bottom of less benefits, wage stagnation and skyrocketing upper management salaries and compensations?
Unions are leeches - only operate by sucking other ppl's money (usually by force). If they were so wonderful, there'd be a line out the door to join!
I've always wondered, if unions are so good at 'running businesses' - why don't they open and operate a few of their own?
Unions could 'get a clue' and offer more association benefits, but they don't have to 'compete' for membership (and so that does not compute -- pre-Janus) so they don't - and I don't want to give them any help (ie, clues).
Maybe they'll rise to the occasion one day. Until then, bye-bye!
It's not the responsibility of unions to run businesses. That is what the company manager is supposed to do.
As a worker, try starting a union in Wal-Mart and see how fast you get fired. That's one reason why unions are not common. Company owners don't want them to get a foot in the door. They see Right to Work laws as a good way to weaken unions, especially in companies where unions are already established. Persuade enough unionized workers to get a raise by ditching the union, and the boss will feel it's okay to violate terms of the labor contract. The union will no longer have enough money to hire a labor lawyer to counter it.
No. Workers in the US have zero bargaining power. Since 1977 worker productivity has gone up 77% while pay (adjusted for inflation) has only gone up 12% (source) During that time corporate profits and CEO/Board of Directors pay has skyrocketed.
Yes, the world is more competitive. But it's also true that US corporations are skimming more off the top for themselves and paying their workers a lot less. Workers are NOT getting compensated for their contributions to the corporate bottom line.
The workers didn't take the risk of starting, nor (except in relatively few cases) buying the company. If the workers don't like it, they can start their own gig.
The workers didn't take the risk of starting, nor (except in relatively few cases) buying the company. If the workers don't like it, they can start their own gig.
Neither did upper management in absolute most cases.. but they are seeing huge increases in salary and bonuses!
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Unions = leeches
