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That's a hell of a defeatist attitude. It's like telling a woman she's just gonna get raped anyway, so she should just choose how and where.
I'm more concerned with the property rights of the landowners along the border than anything else regarding this issue. I've stated before that I would fully support the use of deadly force against any government agents who come to confiscate their property.
"I've stated before that I would fully support the use of deadly force against any government agents who come to confiscate their property"
Eminent Domain is LEGAL and it used almost every day some where in America.
Funds diverted from where? What other important projects will not get done?
"What other important projects will not get done?"
1st, I was in the military and am a BIG supporter of our military.
Many approved projects are claimed to be "important" when in FACT, thy are NOT.
The military, just like rest of the gov't is FULL of "Waste Fraud and Abuse"!
There is equipment that was approved to be built that the military has said they don't want because they are NOT needed BUT, were include in the defense budget anyway as a "payoff" to some congressman whose district builds them.
There is an excellent movie about the building of the Bradly tank. You should check it out.
Doesn't matter. What we have now is mostly mere fencing and that needs to be fixed. Why do you and yours oppose that? Trump also wants an additional 300 miles built. a total of good barriers on 1,000 miles of our border. The rest is nearly impassable terrain.
Don't confuse them with facts, they can't take it and will be running to their "safe places" with their crayons and calling their therapists!
For the money spent on illegals otherwise, view the wall as an INVESTMENT.
Think about it, all the liberal states that extend them free healthcare, food stamps, and assisted housing at the tax payers expense while they do not work or work under the table, pay no taxes, and do not contribute anything back to the system. Even CBP merely detaining, processing, and returning those caught crossing the border illegally costs millions if not billions annually.
As a bonus, reducing the drug smuggling, sex trade, crime, murder, theft, and everything else that happens along our southern border, is PRICELESS.
To those so against the wall, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes. You, your loved one, relative, or friend that would still be here if their life hadn't been taken by someone who shouldn't have been here.
Still wanna argue? Why, and who are you, if you want to discount all that I've touched on above?
"that extend them free healthcare"
One Hospital in one city in the USA
VERY INTENSE...thanks....long read but this situation and its long-term magnitude (and current status) warrant it at times...
This is only One Hospital in one city in the USA
Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas,Texas is a fairly famous institution
and for a variety of reasons:
1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by
coincidence
*"On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity
ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year*
*(That's almost 44 per day---every day)*
*A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave
birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal
immigrants.. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas.*
According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering
15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars
in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County
taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5
million.
The average patient in Park land's maternity ward is 25 years old, married
and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant.. By
law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their
immigration status or ability to pay.
OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday,
middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do. Parkland
Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.
The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient
at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child ---her previous two
were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the
Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in
Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for
the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not
that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even
bother asking at this point.)
"How long has this been going on? What are the long-term affects?
Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly
after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child
there as well (That's right, she's technically a US citizen)
These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition,
birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car
seats, bottles, diapers and formula.
Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only
for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost
insurmountable.
Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any
sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen
would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their
annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the
hospital must take them at their word.
"My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq )
and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don't get any of these
perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So my question is this: Does our
public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than American
citizens? Yes, it does!
As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it's
bare bones, meat and potato medical care - not top of line.
Their (the illegals') medical care is free - simply because they are
illegal immigrants? Once again, there is no way to verify their income.
Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn
less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not
refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not
so easy for Americans.)
There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for
un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free
treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is
going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But US citizens who live
outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?
As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are
actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP
story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to
translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband.
The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother
was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was
apparently a great injustice to her.
In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now
providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak
Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas
Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now
have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed
curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous
multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.
( Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation - particularly to
our "employees" in Congress.)
*Remember that this is only ONE hospital is Dallas, Texas. There are many
more hospitals across our country that also have to deal with this.*
*SO TRUMP IS RIGHT WANTING TO FOCUS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGATION*
*REMEMBER THEY ARE NOT 'UNDOCUMENTED ' , THEY ARE ILLEGAL & MILKING AMERICA
DRY....*..
*PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY US CITIZEN AND LEGAL RESIDENT YOU KNOW.*
Trump is a commie when it comes to eminent domain.
10 million illegals in our country and counting. Not a problem?
An undocumented immigrant invasion is an act of war.
The sacrifice of one person's land to save millions is a no brainer.
One Hospital in one city in the USA
VERY INTENSE...thanks....long read but this situation and its long-term magnitude (and current status) warrant it at times...
This is only One Hospital in one city in the USA
Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas,Texas is a fairly famous institution
and for a variety of reasons:
1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by
coincidence
*"On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity
ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year*
*(That's almost 44 per day---every day)*
*A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave
birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal
immigrants.. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas.*
According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering
15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars
in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County
taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5
million.
The average patient in Park land's maternity ward is 25 years old, married
and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant.. By
law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their
immigration status or ability to pay.
OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday,
middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do. Parkland
Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.
The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient
at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child ---her previous two
were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the
Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in
Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for
the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not
that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even
bother asking at this point.)
"How long has this been going on? What are the long-term affects?
Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly
after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child
there as well (That's right, she's technically a US citizen)
These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition,
birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car
seats, bottles, diapers and formula.
Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only
for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost
insurmountable.
Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any
sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen
would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their
annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the
hospital must take them at their word.
"My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq )
and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don't get any of these
perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So my question is this: Does our
public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than American
citizens? Yes, it does!
As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it's
bare bones, meat and potato medical care - not top of line.
Their (the illegals') medical care is free - simply because they are
illegal immigrants? Once again, there is no way to verify their income.
Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn
less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not
refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not
so easy for Americans.)
There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for
un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free
treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is
going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But US citizens who live
outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?
As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are
actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP
story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to
translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband.
The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother
was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was
apparently a great injustice to her.
In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now
providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak
Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas
Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now
have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed
curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous
multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.
( Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation - particularly to
our "employees" in Congress.)
*Remember that this is only ONE hospital is Dallas, Texas. There are many
more hospitals across our country that also have to deal with this.*
*SO TRUMP IS RIGHT WANTING TO FOCUS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGATION*
*REMEMBER THEY ARE NOT 'UNDOCUMENTED ' , THEY ARE ILLEGAL & MILKING AMERICA
DRY....*..
*PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY US CITIZEN AND LEGAL RESIDENT YOU KNOW.*
A wall sounds like a counter-narcotics program to me.
Agreed.
Lots of illegal drugs are walked across our open border.
It's long past time to close it up.
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