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Old 04-10-2019, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The exact mentality that has turned the working class against the Democrats.
Please, I'm a blue collar democrat. I'd never vote R
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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Whatever floats your boat I guess. I'm not an outdoorsman type, so I'd be bored out of my mind there
That is fine for you. It's not a justification for putting down those who do enjoy the outdoors and easy access to it here in WV.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Actually, places in the middle like Colorado are shining examples of American prosperity, however all states have a solid middle class and wealthy presence. I'm always surprised how ignorant people from places like New York are about places such as Alabama, where actually the majority of people have a more pleasant and more stable financial life than people in NYC for example.
Probably no more so than ignorant people from Alabama who use a broad brush to paint NY.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Please, I'm a blue collar democrat. I'd never vote R
Again, it's not about you. WV was a very Blue state not all that long ago. (D)'s cared about the working class then.

Our electorate sent Rockefeller and Byrd to D.C.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Bite me. Every child has health care coverage. Every pregnant woman qualifies for health care coverage. We just passed legislation to provide no cost (to the student) Community College.

That's far better than many states.

Wake up one morning and look out your tent flap and see the mist lift exposing Seneca Rocks and then ask your question.
Somebody hit a nerve?

What you may think is beauty doesn't necessarily translate to others.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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https://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/w...3a9cdfbb2.html

West Virigina's.....population has been shrinking for the past decade at the fastest rate in the nation
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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Somebody hit a nerve?

What you may think is beauty doesn't necessarily translate to others.
And that only applies to others, not everyone as a whole. As I've already noted. You can say "It's not for me". No one cares if you do that. It's when someone feels that they have to put down others because it's "not for them" that you step off in front of the bus.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:41 PM
 
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West Virigina's.....population has been shrinking for the past decade at the fastest rate in the nation
That's what people are told to do, no? The good paying jobs in the coal mines are going away. People should follow the jobs, no?
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Who would want to live in West Virginia?
Nope- but Many towns are well established - folks live there for a long time . Fl will never compete- hurricanes and transplants keep it all moving around.
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Old 04-10-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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Care to show the stats on that claim? Notice I'm not attacking you personally, as you do.
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Not being strong in economics is not a personal attack. The trailer and shack owning status in WV is not comparable to actual equity in other places. When I was there in the 70's land could be had for $100 an acre - sometimes less.

The problem was - the land was worthless.

Would you rather own an acre in WV or one on the Gulf Coast of Florida or near the San Diego waterfront?

This stuff is quite obvious.

If you post foolish things expect to be debated on it. Post some sense and many will likely agree with you.

Here is one source:
https://mic.com/articles/90297/the-f...her#.WdKDXdgTN

"According to a new George Washington University study, West Virginia receives more money per person from federal government programs than the rest of the country. The Mountain State gets 26.2% of its income from programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid — well above the national average of 16.7%."

And, BTW, those same old Confed states take the most after WV:
"As a general trend, the study also found that southern states are much more likely to receive the most federal money — after West Virginia, the next four are: Mississippi, 24.0%; Arkansas, 22.8%; Kentucky, 22.4%; and Alabama, 21.8%"

I'm glad to "learn ya" as we said in WV, but when you talk "welfare"....that's not exactly the same! Much of this money is in Medicare, Medicaid, Federal Programs for poverty, etc....you may not classify it as "welfare"...which is a broad term with no definition.

Bottom line is I pay - and I just got my tax return tonight and can assure you that I am paying big......

" Tax revenue primarily comes from highly developed urban regions like the Northeast, California and the big Great Lakes cities like Chicago. That wealth flows to rural areas — which happen to be predominantly GOP — and the South, which is generally much poorer than the rest of the country"

I was always taught that one shouldn't bite the hands that feed them. This is the opposite case.

WV is bad enough economically...can you imagine if over 1/4 of the entire income was taken away?

Put another way, WV is the most Socialist State in the USA. It's also the "biggest taker"....

Unfortunately we live in opposite world these days where lies are truth and so on. But these numbers are too large to be rounding errors.
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