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Old 04-16-2019, 12:21 PM
 
Location: London
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Just what of Trump's solutions have not or would not be effective? Just what are these so-called logical routes that would have been more effective? He wanted uncontrolled illegal immigration? Huh?
There should've been an implementation of mandatory eVerify, whistle blower programs that reward those who report companies hiring illegals, as well as fining those companies to hell and back. Plus, wiping out ALL social benefits to illegals, and being far more cautious of issuing tourist visas.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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How can Trump punish sanctuary city's and states by giving them what they have said they want ?

Its not adding up.

Why are Democrats now demonizing the illegals they say they want to welcome and protect ?
I am not a democrat so I have no idea what is in their head.

You do realize that I put the word punishing in parentheses. You must because you put it in bold. Yet my point went over your head. It was a sarcastic comment.

Its all about appeasing his base and deflecting the fact his border strategy is a huge failure and there is little he can do at this point. So he spins the situation into "forcing" these cities to take these people (again parentheses). Perhaps that will strain their resources and overwhelm them. And if they complain he can say see they really do not want these people in their cities.


The other possible caveat is some sanctuary cities or future ones that might be on the fence may back away from being sanctuary cities do the strain these people are likely to cause the social welfare system.

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Old 04-16-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Obviously you don't know punctuation any better than the leftist talking points.

There is a difference between parentheses and quotes. Who are you quoting ? Some leftist loon ?

The citizens that are being killed by illegals protected by the sanctuary cities and democrats is a punishment. No one has more blood on their hands than Ca. Gov. Gavin Newsom.

https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/parentheses.html


https://www.grammarly.com/blog/quotation-marks/

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...gs-3272118.php

It also cites a directive issued by Newsom in March 2007, which prohibited "dissemination" of immigration information by police or other city departments to the federal government unless the agencies were required to do so by U.S. law.
The claim says the city created an environment that was hostile to anyone who would report offenders for deportation

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Old 04-16-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No he doesn't. But if floods of illegals are coming over and the dem libs what them, why not send them to sanctuary cities?
It's under investigation in Congress--let's see how legal Trump's 'plan' is.

Because they might as well just let them all walk in. If you dump them somewhere, they are aren't going to necessarily stay there. And the government will lose track of most of them--how exactly is this any different than just letting a bunch of caravans of asylum seekers come on in?

He doesn't seem to have thought it through, as he never does before flapping his mouth.

Isn't it like Trump is cutting off his nose to spite his face? Actually--let him. It will be very entertaining to see the results of Donald Trump's vengeance policies. The law of unintended consequences is bound to kick in.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It's under investigation in Congress--let's see how legal Trump's 'plan' is.

Because they might as well just let them all walk in. If you dump them somewhere, they are aren't going to necessarily stay there. And the government will lose track of most of them--how exactly is this any different than just letting a bunch of caravans of asylum seekers come on in?

He doesn't seem to have thought it through, as he never does before flapping his mouth.

Isn't it like Trump is cutting off his nose to spite his face? Actually--let him. It will be very entertaining to see the results of Donald Trump's vengeance policies. The law of unintended consequences is bound to kick in.
You do realize that that is exactly what is happening NOW? They walk in because liberal lawmakers refuse any efforts to secure the border. They are being "dumped" because activist judges force the administration to release those in detention. And caravans of asylum seekers are coming because we both refuse to secure our borders, and because the administration is forced to turn them loose-all due to the actions of Democrats.

The only difference? Now instead of these criminals being "dumped" in smaller border communities that don't want them-they will be released in warm, welcoming "sanctuary" cities that have embraced criminals.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:29 PM
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Location: On the Border
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Let's see how your welcome get's worn out as the flood keeps coming by the thousands.
When it's hard is when helping other people counts.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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I am not a democrat so I have no idea what is in their head.

You do realize that I put the word punishing in parentheses. You must because you put it in bold. Yet my point went over your head. It was a sarcastic comment.

Its all about appeasing his base and deflecting the fact his border strategy is a huge failure and there is little he can do at this point. So he spins the situation into "forcing" these cities to take these people (again parentheses). Perhaps that will strain their resources and overwhelm them. And if they complain he can say see they really do not want these people in their cities.


The other possible caveat is some sanctuary cities or future ones that might be on the fence may back away from being sanctuary cities do the strain these people are likely to cause the social welfare system.
Trump's border strategy is not a huge failure. The failure is with congress (mostly the Democrats) for not changing our asylum policies and objecting to securing our border with good physical barriers. He has no alternative but to catch and release as we have no more room for them in our detainment camps near the border. We are overwhelmed with them. Where should we send them?
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Trump's border strategy is not a huge failure. The failure is with congress (mostly the Democrats) for not changing our asylum policies and objecting to securing our border with good physical barriers. He has no alternative but to catch and release as we have no more room for them in our detainment camps near the border. We are overwhelmed with them. Where should we send them?
Prison camps.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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While the illegals are resting on the Liberal couches, they will also call and sign up for Medicaid, food stamps, and any other free government program.
Why do any of those programs exist in the first place?
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Issue is, top Dem leadership wants to have all the good but not the bad. To them the good is, promote their voter base. Bad is the crime, disease and financial burden. So they basically want to bring in all these south of the boarder illegals for voter base gain. They don't need voter base gains in cities where they already have enough anti-republican sediment. So they want to ship these illegals to parts that need voter base gain.

With these illegals being sent to sanctuary cities only, Top Dem leadership does not gain anything from it.
Yup. As with most things, this is all about politics for Democrats. They have no interest in doing what's right for the American people. In addition to that, Democrats are totally unconcerned with the people affected by human trafficking, child sex trafficking, drug overdoses, and crime from illegals.
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