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Old 04-16-2019, 06:23 AM
 
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Colorado used to have libertarian leanings, live and let live. Then the Californians moved in

 
Old 04-16-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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“The whole Good Cop / Bad Cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be good or listen to someone's anecdote about his uncle Charlie, an allegedly good cop.

We need only consider the following:

A cop's job is to enforce the laws, all of them;

Many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked;

Therefore every cop has to agree to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked.

There are no good cops.”

- Robert Higgs
"A cop's job is to enforce the laws, all of them;"

So, when a cop stops you for speeding, he should give you a ticket INSTEAD of just a warning!

Thank GOD, cops DO have discretion when deciding what you get or don't get.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Truth and knowledge.

Better than the boot polish you're drinking.

"Truth and knowledge."


"The TRUTH, you couldn't handle the truth"!
 
Old 04-16-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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A cop can't enforce a law that isn't enforceable. The stupid ammo import law comes to mind. Unless you have a receipt stapled to your forehead that has the date/time stamp on it from Bass Pro in Phoenix, OR you are dumb enough to admit you bought it there, there is NOTHING a cop can do to enforce it.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 04:13 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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"A cop's job is to enforce the laws, all of them;"

So, when a cop stops you for speeding, he should give you a ticket INSTEAD of just a warning!

Thank GOD, cops DO have discretion when deciding what you get or don't get.
If a cop gives a warning ticket, he or she still is enforcing the law. For example, in NC, state law says the following (a direct quote from the law cited below):

(b) In addition to other duties and powers heretofore existing, all law-enforcement officers charged with the duty of enforcing the motor vehicle laws are authorized to issue warning tickets to motorists for conduct constituting a potential hazard to the motoring public which does not amount to a definite, clear-cut, substantial violation of the motor vehicle laws. Each warning ticket issued shall contain information necessary to identify the offender, and shall be signed by the issuing officer.

https://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegisla...GS_20-183.html

The cop is still enforcing the law because the law explicitly gives them some discretionary powers over traffic laws.
If someone has allegedly committed a serious criminal offense, the level of discretion is a different story.

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Old 04-16-2019, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Exclamation lawless revolt of rural sheriffs spreads!

This is a concerning, even alarming, and literally revolting, development. Over have of Washington State sheriffs are now openly questioning the constitutionality of a commonsense gun law passed by voters last year. It would put certain restrictions on assault weapons (with a simplified definition of 'assault weapon,') and require that guns be locked up and unloaded when not in use.

The governor and state atty general have both warned the sheriff, and hinted that they might have to use the State Patrol to ensure that the law is enforced. That could get ugly.

A 'gun sanctuary' movement has also spread to Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Illinois. I warned my fellow Democrats when the 'sanctuary' movement first came up re immigration. Be careful what you wish for! We're headed towards lawlessness, anarchy, and civil unrest.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1QL0ZC

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Organizers of the pro-gun sanctuaries admit they took the idea from liberals who have created immigration sanctuaries across the United States where local officials defy the Trump administration’s efforts to enforce tougher immigration laws.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It doesn't matter. Property rights are absolute and no one has the right to violate those rights. And that man had the inherent natural right to defend himself and his property against any government employee who trespassed.
Your property rights are only good if you don;t violate another person's rights. In this case, he was a threat to the woman.
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