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Old 04-15-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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The "official" number calculated by Jewish historians is more like 5 million dead (not all murdered).


That makes the Holocaust just fine then- 6 million is terrible, but 5 million is no big deal.


You also failed to mention the additional 6 million Catholics, Gypsies, Russians, homosexuals and other "undesirables" in the Nazi regime.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Don't need to tell me about Cambodia. My brother was there and my X fiance had a brother that was killed there. I think I have a fair idea about what war can do. But have you visited any camps or are you truly familiar with exactly the torture these people suffered before they were killed? My guess is you are not. thisis not disputing what war has done to many and how bad it can be. It isn't saying innocent children do not suffer. I still maintain the Holocaust was the worse thing ever to happen in our live time.
Then you are familiar with genocide.

Explain to me then how the Nazi Holocaust is worse than the Cambodian Genocide, or the Armenian Genocide, or the Bangladesh Genocide, or the Indonesian Genocide, or the Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution, or the Soviet Gulags, or the Kazakh Genocide, or the Holodomor, or the Soviet Purges, or the Rwandan Genocide, or the Greek and Assyrian Genocides?
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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No, not all religions are cults. There is a huge difference between religion and cults.
Cults aren't as good at raising money or causing death?
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:58 PM
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The shakedown says the same thing every year.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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WWII death toll = 75 million plus
Holocaust death toll = 6 million

Yet somehow the holocaust is worse? They have good marketing, I'll give them that.
When I point out that Mao killed twice as many landlords as Hitler killed Jews I'm labeled an anti-semite.

Apparently Chinese lives aren't worth as much as Jewish lives.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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Huh?

If you can't see the difference between the death toll caused by war, and the death toll of an organized extermination of a group of people because of their faith, then I feel sorry for you.

Disgusted actually.
Dead is dead.

I feel sorry for you as well.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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When I point out that Mao killed twice as many landlords as Hitler killed Jews I'm labeled an anti-semite.

Apparently Chinese lives aren't worth as much as Jewish lives.
They are not. Those 6 million Jews have probably produced more income in the last 70 years than any group of dead people in modern history.

Sorry snowflake's, I went to school for business.
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I think a lot of them post on this board.
One of them was Hutton Gibson (Mel's old man); he claimed they all "went to the Bronx"
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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So here's the actual poll. NOTE, many of the question are open-ended, meaning the participants didn't get a list of statements to agree or disagree with - they had to answer a question with their own original text.

Question 33 throws in doubt all the other responses - "Do you believe the Holocaust happened"? 96% in both groups said yes.

I don't see how that matches with 1/3 don't know it existed.

Also, they have 3 answers for what the Jews had to wear on their clothing, from "yellow star", "Star of David", "Star", um, what? Those are all three correct answers - why divide the people up?

88% across the board believe it should be mandatory to teach it in American schools.

This is a very, very skewed reporting of the results of this survey, IMHO. Although the population didn't seem to know the numbers killed, most people knew a great deal about the Holocaust.

Virtually every person taking the survey, when asked what person do you most closely associate with the holocaust, were able to (open question) come up with a correct answer. Anne Frank is NOT an incorrect answer to this personal opinion question.

And yes, younger people are less likely to know all the details, as they are unlikely to know people who were involved in the Holocaust. Time does fade memory from a population.

NOTE: At the end of the survey, there is a note that 23% of the Millennials surveyed had not graduated from High School. That goes along way explaining why about 23% of them don't seem to understand the Holocaust.

http://www.claimscon.org/wp-content/...esults-1-1.pdf

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Old 04-15-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Then you are familiar with genocide.

Explain to me then how the Nazi Holocaust is worse than the Cambodian Genocide, or the Armenian Genocide, or the Bangladesh Genocide, or the Indonesian Genocide, or the Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution, or the Soviet Gulags, or the Kazakh Genocide, or the Holodomor, or the Soviet Purges, or the Rwandan Genocide, or the Greek and Assyrian Genocides?
We are talking about the the a group of people that were not part of a war, who were burned beyond recognition because the complained about being cold: they were thrown into burning hot showers or those, including children that were locked small cages with ice and ice water because they were complaining they were to cold and all this were just starters.why? Because of their religion. Innocent kids who did nothing. I could go on and on. Do you know anyone that has or had a number engraved on their whist? I do.
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