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Old 04-19-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Trump innocent! Putin innocent! Justy Smolensk innocent!

 
Old 04-19-2019, 08:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
I don’t think Mueller’s investigation had anything to do with Trump’s and the GOP’s failed attempt to kill the ACA
Or to make a deal with NK over missile treaty—NK is now asking for Pompeo’s removal from the talks and a more “serious” negotiator to take his place
And it didn’t prevent that horrible tax bill that no person making less than a million dollars is pleased with
And it certainly hasn’t stopped Trump from creating a multiple-million dollar debacle at the southern border
Nor has it apparently had anything to do with the economy

But once again—Trump’s complaint is about HIM. “This is the worst thing that every (?) happened to me”
He certainly hasn’t cared about the threat of Russia to the 2016 election—and it happened—it is real and it is ongoing—happened in 2018 and will happen in 2020, especially since the Senate/McConnell won’t do anything to prevent it...
And just maybe Trump was afraid that Mueller’s investigation would find financial improprieties—
Which it certainly has—
Cohen’s involvement has made it possible to kill the Trump Charity, sanction Trump from serving on any charity board in NY state, and brought out involvement of Federal Campaign finance violations against Unnamed #1

There are also 11 other investigations ongoing — probably Barr will try to impede or stop them entirely—
But Congress also has oversight into their operations...so might be harder than he thinks...
But, the reality is you have no idea how the false allegations of the FBI that our President might be a Russian double agent have affected anything do you?

Who knows what might be different now? We will never know.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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By the way, I find Trump's comment particularly interesting, which was mentioned in the program: "This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f*#$%d.” This is not, as I think Colbert said, a remark you'd expect from an innocent man.
Once again, we see the fake news media SUCCEEDING in its efforts to pervert our democracy.

That Colbert-Katyal exchange of deliberate lies -- which millions of people like Clarallel swallow reflexively -- is what REAL election interference looks like.

Every day, there are dozens of episodes like this in the fake news media, and each of them by itself is a thousand times more effective than all of the "meddling" that Russia supposedly did in the 2016 election put together.

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Old 04-19-2019, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Ignore the screaming children. Just turn it off. It's over.

MAGA
 
Old 04-19-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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Yeah, I did a double take when I saw that. Why would he react that way?
If you actually wanted to know, you could just read what Trump said next.

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Old 04-19-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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It isn't derangement syndrome to think Trump's behavior is immoral......even die hard conservatives like Shapiro think he is immoral
He's not really a conservative at all.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 08:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This redacted version of the Mueller report is sure to be contested. Congress will want to see what is under the redactions.

To court we go!


***Read the report HERE on the DOJ website.***

https://www.scribd.com/document/4067...ort#from_embed


They can go into a skiff and take notes.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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I think the best take on the matter is by this Jewish Harvard educated Lawyer who happens to seriously dislike Trump, wouldn't mind all that much if he was impeached, but is also a Never-Trumper Conservative who actually bothers to be honest and fair.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDWPGK4-zY&t=2851s

Ordinarily I would hesitate to use Ben Shapiro as an objective neutral voice. He most certainly isn't politically neutral. But he read the whole report, he is a lawyer and he dislikes Trump to the point that he's probably never voting for the guy. In a arena with no neutral parties, that's as close as you're gonna get.

CNN, NYT, TYT, MSNBC, WaPo and the rest are completely incapable of being objective or honest about any of this. They are desperate to prove that they didn't just waste two years of everyone's time chasing a big fat nothing. We can fully expect them to be a lot more concerned with saving face than telling the truth.

I'd say the report does a pretty good job of exposing Trump's stupidity, ego and general obnoxiousness, but it fails to demonstrate criminality. That's why Mueller -- a man who clearly despises Trump -- punted. He knew that no prosecutor in their right mind would take this case to court. He really wanted to, but couldn't. So he punts it to the AG and lets Barr take the heat for stating the obvious.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You liberals, the whole lit of you, are so butthurt it's pathetic. As you all typically do, when something blows up in your puny little faces, you all resort to your sickening conspiracy theories.

You won't believe Mueller, whom you idolized from Day One, but you'll believe the bullcrap Obama, Hillary and Loretta Lynch tossed at you.
Hahahahaha........clearly you aren't reading a word anyone is posting nor have you read a word of Mueller's report.

That's just it, you see. We DO believe Mueller. Mueller has laid out very clearly, the lies, cooperation with Russia, and Trump's never ending attempts to obstruct justice - and has actually told Congress the evidence is there for their determination. His words have been posted all over this thread - too bad you haven't bothered to read any of them. It's understandable, however. Much more comfortable to remain oblivious to the truth or lie to yourself about reality. And Barr has totally disgraced himself with his lies and deliberate mischaracterization of this report - which means exactly the opposite of what Barr wants the public to believe. Barr's previous supporters are now calling him a liar and Trump toady.

Once again, educate yourself. Here is a link to a searchable download of the entire report.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/0...er-report-pdf/

Read the report. Then come back and say we don't believe Mueller.

That's just it, you see. We do.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 09:28 PM
 
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Hahahahaha........clearly you aren't reading a word anyone is posting nor have you read a word of Mueller's report.

That's just it, you see. We DO believe Mueller. Mueller has laid out very clearly, the lies, cooperation with Russia, and Trump's never ending attempts to obstruct justice - and has actually told Congress the evidence is there for their determination. His words have been posted all over this thread - too bad you haven't bothered to read any of them. It's understandable, however. Much more comfortable to remain oblivious to the truth or lie to yourself about reality. And Barr has totally disgraced himself with his lies and deliberate mischaracterization of this report - which means exactly the opposite of what Barr wants the public to believe. Barr's previous supporters are now calling him a liar and Trump toady.

Once again, educate yourself. Here is a link to a searchable download of the entire report.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/0...er-report-pdf/

Read the report. Then come back and say we don't believe Mueller.

That's just it, you see. We do.
So Trump was trying to obstruct the witch hunt. Is that what you are saying?

If there’s no underlying crime, where’s the obstruction?
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