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Old 04-24-2019, 03:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by KayAnn246 View Post
No, he didn't. Mueller spelled out in his report the president and some of his aide's refusal to provide information and speak with him on multiple occasions. In fact, he decided against a subpoena for the president because it would take too much time.
B.S.! Mueller had subpoena powers and grand juries under his control. Nobody could refuse. Interviewing the President he had to go through his lawyers.

Under the constitution the President is the chief prosecutor of the land and he has prosecutorial discretion in which investigations to take seriously and the ones to blow off. If Trump felt the investigation was a hoax and didn’t want to talk to Mueller he has constitutional powers to do so.


Go learn the difference between obstruction vs prosecutorial discretion and comeback to me. Mueller is not above The President in the executive branch.

 
Old 04-24-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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"prosecutorial discretion?" Trump?

TFF

Is this what Breitbart is peddling these days?
 
Old 04-24-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: NC
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Is this what Breitbart is peddling these days?
Check with them and get back to us.
 
Old 04-24-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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B.S.! Mueller had subpoena powers and grand juries under his control. Nobody could refuse. Interviewing the President he had to go through his lawyers.

Under the constitution the President is the chief prosecutor of the land and he has prosecutorial discretion in which investigations to take seriously and the ones to blow off. If Trump felt the investigation was a hoax and didn’t want to talk to Mueller he has constitutional powers to do so.


Go learn the difference between obstruction vs prosecutorial discretion and comeback to me. Mueller is not above The President in the executive branch.
He has a pattern of not cooperating. But Democrats aren't going away. If aides want to play with their future by being held in contempt, they are risking their livelihood for a corrupt con. Counterintelligence is getting started. Like usual Trump supporters will say anything even if they haven't read the report.

Read the report. No, he did not fully cooperate.

Did Donald Trump ‘fully’ cooperate with Mueller investigation? No
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Mueller: "We informed counsel of the insufficiency of those responses in several respects. We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not recall’ or ‘remember’ or have an ‘independent recollection’ of information called for by the questions. Other answers were ‘incomplete or imprecise.’ "
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Because the written exchange gave investigators "no opportunity to ask follow-up questions," Mueller’s team again requested an in-person interview. Once again, Trump declined.
Ultimately, Mueller concluded, "We viewed the written answers to be inadequate."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...estigation-no/
 
Old 04-24-2019, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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In the event Politico is considered fake news, here is the actual text:
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We received the President's written responses in late November 2018.4 In December 2018, we informed counsel of the insufficiency of those responses in several respects. 5

We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he "does not 'recall' or 'remember' or have an 'independent recollection "' of information called for by the questions. 6

Other answers were "incomplete or imprecise."7

The written responses, we informed counsel, "demonstrate the inadequacy of the written format, as we have had no opportunity to ask followup questions that would ensure complete answers and potentially refresh your client's recollection or clarify the extent or nature of his lack of recollection."8

We again requested an in-person interview, limited to certain topics, advising the President's counsel that "[t]his is the President's opportunity to voluntarily provide us with information for us to evaluate in the context of all of the evidence we have gathered." 9

The President declined. 10

Footnotes:
5 12/3/18 Letter, Special Counsel's Office to the President's Personal Counsel, at 3.
6 12/3/18 Letter, Special Counsel's Office to the President's Personal Counsel, at 3.
7 12/3/18 Letter, Special Counsel's Office to the President's Personal Counsel, at 3; see (noting,
"for example," that the President "did not answer whether he had at any time directed or suggested that discussions about the Trump Moscow Project should cease ... but he has since made public comments about that topic").
8 12/3/18 Letter, Special Counsel's Office to the President's Personal Counsel, at 3.
9 12/3/18 Letter, Special Counsel to the President's Personal Counsel.
10 12/12/18 Letter, President's Personal Counsel to the Special Counsel's Office, at 2.

Mueller Report, Appendix C, pp. C-1, C-2

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Old 04-24-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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Read the report. No, he did not fully cooperate.

"We informed counsel of the insufficiency of those responses in several respects. We noted, among other things, that the President stated on more than 30 occasions that he ‘does not recall’ or ‘remember’ or have an ‘independent recollection’ of information called for by the questions. Other answers were ‘incomplete or imprecise.’ "

"Because the written exchange gave investigators "no opportunity to ask follow-up questions," Mueller’s team again requested an in-person interview. Once again, Trump declined.
Ultimately, Mueller concluded, "We viewed the written answers to be inadequate."

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...estigation-no/
Understandable that Mueller said, "Fine. Congress, you got it."
 
Old 04-24-2019, 05:09 PM
 
Location: FL
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That's exactly what the Democrats don't want. There is no evidence, and televised proceedings in which Representatives and Senators explain the law to the public would be a disaster for the liars in the mass media. The Left requires a monopoly on speech because everything it does is a lie.
You really should take the time and read the report.
 
Old 04-24-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You really should take the time and read the report.
Well, if he did that, he wouldn't be able to spew lies and misrepresentations. For people for whom the truth is antithetical, much better to listen to regurgitate FOX, Barr and other liars than quote from the actual document. There are always the gullible - who, if a lie is repeated often enough - will be believe it. This is what the Russians are banking on. People too lazy or stupid to read or consider actual fact.
 
Old 04-24-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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Understandable that Mueller said, "Fine. Congress, you got it."
Remember Trump criticized Clinton for her "no recollection" responses about an investigation but he does it over 30 times as a sitting president under investigation by a special counsel.

Great Op-Ed

Hillary Clinton:
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Mueller documented a serious crime against all Americans. Here’s how to respond. Obviously, this is personal for me, and some may say that I’m not the right messenger. But my perspective is not just that of a former candidate and target of the Russian plot. I am also a former senator and secretary of state who served during much of Vladi*mir Putin’s ascent, sat across the table from him and knows firsthand that he seeks to weaken our country. I am also someone who, by a strange twist of fate, was a young staff attorney on the House Judiciary Committee’s Watergate impeachment inquiry in 1974, as well as first lady during the impeachment process that began in 1998. And I was a senator for New York after 9/11, when Congress had to respond to an attack on our country. Each of these experiences offers important lessons for how we should proceed today..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.9158052a9f46
 
Old 04-24-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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Remember Trump criticized Clinton for her "no recollection" responses about an investigation but he does it over 30 times as a sitting president under investigation by a special counsel.

Great Op-Ed

Hillary Clinton:
Who would remember 30 things about a NON-CRIME that DIDNT HAPPEN two years ago?

Any hearings should start with Clinton so we can see her explain why she went abroad to buy laundered Russian disinformation dirt on her opponent from a Brit.
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