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Old 04-25-2019, 10:26 PM
 
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Interesting to see what Fox News “legal expert” Napolitano has to say about the report
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...of-justice.amp

I would not have expected him to come down on side of jurisprudence like he did and call Trump out for obstruction in all those overt ways...

 
Old 04-25-2019, 11:21 PM
 
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Interesting to see what Fox News “legal expert” Napolitano has to say about the report
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...of-justice.amp

I would not have expected him to come down on side of jurisprudence like he did and call Trump out for obstruction in all those overt ways...
you always had your anti-Trumps in Fox News since he declared in 2015.

He is wrong. When Comey told Trump he wasn't under investigation personally, Trump as the Chief Prosecutor in the executive branch has prosecutorial discretion in how the Russian investigation would be conducted in the executive branch . The President outranks Mueller, Comey, Barr and Rosenstein. If they don't like Trump's views on the investigation, they could quit but they can't charged him with obstruction just because they disagree with him how to go about the investigation.

Prosecutorial discretion is the authority of an agency or officer (President is the top dog in the executive branch) to decide what charges to bring and how to pursue each case. A law-enforcement officer who declines to pursue a case against a person has favorably exercised prosecutorial discretion.


Comey or Mueller doesn't outrank the President in the executive branch. If the President thinks the investigation is a hoax and is dragging too long, he has constitutional powers over anybody in the DOJ to shut it down or fired anybody who disagrees and since nobody was charged with collusion or conspiracy with Russia then it makes Trump correct for wanting it to shut down and to control it.



What a President can't do is commit perjury or bribe witnesses or order anybody to break the law to get a specific outcome of an investigation but just for exercising his constitutional duties as President is not obstruction, that is his powers in the executive branch, he is the chief prosecutor of the nation. He can shut down any investigation he feels is a waste of time or a hoax. Mueller, Barr or anybody in the DOJ can disagree and quit if they like but the President has the last word on prosecutorial discretion in any investigation in the executive branch.





If Democrats didn't want the President in charge of the Russian investigation, then Congress should have done their own investigation since the President has no constitutional powers to control the investigation done by Congress.


This is constitution 101.

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Old 04-26-2019, 02:53 AM
 
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First he claims the Mueller report is a "total exoneration."

Then he claims it is a "total ‘hit job’"produced by "true Trump Haters."

Then the Deranged Donald claims "Enough is enough." Really?

He's got an army of attorneys to analyze the report and a month's heads start on the rest of, and even he can't figure out what the Mueller report means.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 05:00 AM
 
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First he claims the Mueller report is a "total exoneration."

Then he claims it is a "total ‘hit job’"produced by "true Trump Haters."

Then the Deranged Donald claims "Enough is enough." Really?

He's got an army of attorneys to analyze the report and a month's heads start on the rest of, and even he can't figure out what the Mueller report means.
It would likely be more helpful for the American people if his "army of attorneys" took the time to explain his oath of office to him.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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OR... it brings in too little money. They are BOTH sides of the SAME coin.

Ken
No they aren't. When I run out of money at the end of the month I don't say oh, I should have brought more money in this month. The irony is that you Democrats just want to keep spending more.

Free college
Paid off tuitiion
Free daycare
free healthcare



Did you people ever hear the saying 'there's no free lunch'. SOMEBODY is paying for all this FREE stuff.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 06:49 AM
 
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You're right, I don't believe it.

His most recent abuse of the power of his office was to assert executive privilege as justification for non-compliance with subpoenas.
"His most recent abuse of the power of his office was to assert executive privilege as justification for non-compliance

You must not remember all of obama's admin people doing the same thing.

The House subpoenaed LOTS of documents and the obama people dragged their feet so long that private citizens filed FOIAs and got the SAME documents BEFORE the House did AND the docs the house got were so redacted they didn't make any sense, yet, THE FOIA DOCS WERE UNREDACTED.

The House NEVER got ALL the docs subpoenaed from the obama admin.

Trump not ONE declared "Executive Privilege" throughout the entire Mueller investigation,like obama did with AG Holder and his fouled Fast and Furious program which caused the death of one of our Border Agents.

Trump NEVER claimed client lawyer privilege through the entire Mueller "investigation"

The bottom line is IS "Executive privilege" a legal thing or not? How can it be an "abuse" of power if it is legal?

If it has been LEGAL for other presidents to use it, why not Trump?

If you are so irate over Trump using it, where were you when obama used it?

"If it LOOKS like a HYPOCRITE...."!
 
Old 04-26-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Apparently Trump supporters have no difficulty thinking that they can always have it both ways....
You persist in viewing anything HRC has done as a criminal offense worth of prison even after GOP investigations have not found anything wrong...
Yet his minions believe Trump can do no wrong...even when he overtly supports obstruction of justice, vilifies American institutions, and stokes animosity and divisiveness among Americans and our foreign allies...
"Yet his minions believe Trump can do no wrong."

What makes think you are smart enough to KNOW what others think.

Trump went through a 9 month FBI investigation AND a 2 year Special Counsel investigation with a lawyer team of 16 hillary campaign donors and some even worked for her and found NOTHING to warrant indictments.

Hillary has NOT gone through ANY of that so your "comparison" IS APPLE AND ORANGES.

The obama admin did NOTHING to her for her blatant criminal activity by the way she handled classified material through her private server which on its OWN breaks several laws.

"even when he overtly supports obstruction of justice" The why DIDN'T Mueller come out and say it the way you just did?
 
Old 04-26-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/23...l-credibility/


7 Glaring Omissions In The Mueller Report That Kill Its Credibility

Robert Mueller’s special counsel was presented to the American public as unimpeachable. From its beginning, a distinct minority in politics and media, including several Federalist writers, were skeptical, citing the special counsel’s past prosecutorial abuses, the past alleged misconduct of its pivotal investigators, and the team’s peculiar partisan makeup.

Once in action, its seemingly limitless powers, heavy-handed usage of such powers, and more questionable if not dubious indictments, far removed from “collusion,” seemed to confirm our worst fears. While there is much within the Mueller report that further suggests this skepticism was well-founded, what is perhaps most probative is what the report omitted....
"including several Federalist writers," DISAGREE on all kinds if things that happened in our history.

Just like Lawyers. As they say , you could put 100 lawyers in a room and could NOT get them to agree on what to order for lunch!
 
Old 04-26-2019, 07:15 AM
 
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Read the report. As for Daniels, Cohen is going to jail for actions directed by the president. SDNY still lists him as Individual , a unindicted co conspirator. So much scandal and corruption it’s easy to forget the basic facts.
"Read the report", The report was NOT what was talked about.

Shiff STATED over and over he had SEEN THE EVIDENCE.

All we want is to SEE the "evidence" he CLAIMS he saw.

If Shiff HAS the evidences, why did he allow the Mueller investigation to keep on going? Why din't he GIVE what he had to Mueller?

I GUARANTEE IF Shiff had ANY evidence he WOULD have given it to Mueller which would have CHANGED Mueller's mind and WOULD HAVE asked for indictments.

Put up or SHUT UP!

Quit trying to divert from the question.
 
Old 04-26-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Logic is not to believe the president. Hope Hicks will be a added witness in the SDNY case. The president said he could shoot someone and not lose any voters. He is aware of the base.
"Logic is not to believe the president"

LOGIC is NOT to believe all the yo-yo's who THINK they know MORE then the Mueller team, comprised of 16 DEM HILLARY SUPPORTERS and lawyers who WORKED FOR HER.

"The president said he could shoot someone and not lose any voters"

But a we have seen for DECADES how much "logic the dems LACK!

You MIGHT want to look up the word, "sarcasm"!
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