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Old 04-18-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Brave Stranger View Post
They tried to pivot from collusion, which there never was, to pin obstruction on Trump, which is absurd since there was no underlying crime.
The obstruction issue is ..general.
Obstruction of justice.

Which he did every day.
In word and deed.

Trump vacumes up crime. No pinning needed.
We all know it.

 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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Reminder: today when you hear people seizing on the idea that Mueller didn't "prove innocence," remember—that was never Mueller's job. Prosecutors do not set out to prove a negative. They look for evidence to establish a case. They didn't have one. It was never there. It's over.

Really? It's over?



Hmm. I wonder why Mueller handed over some 10 areas of criminal investigation to three different Federal district attorney offices. I wonder why the two Mueller grand juries are still impaneled.



Questions, questions.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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As I said, supporters of Trump will believe what they want to believe.
I think you got it twisted. It was the loons on the left that told us trump was a Russian asset and colluded with the Putin government. It doesn’t get more conspiracy theory than that. “But the propaganda media told us it was true!”
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by what'd i miss View Post
The obstruction issue is ..general.
Obstruction of justice.

Which he did every day.
In word and deed.

Trump vacumes up crime. No pinning needed.
We all know it.



i.e. "I know we're beaten. Badly But we're loath, in fact incapable to admit it"
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Shiff has his own worries now. Things he said have been proven to be not true.
Schiff alleged contacts, meetings, and lies about Russia. Read the report. They are true. What Nunes said wasn't true, that's why he was forced to resign.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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For those who just cannot handle the report complete clears Trump and now uses an total silly analogy that Trump is using Barr as his personal attorney. You need to wake up.


Barr followed the law to the "t". Super attorney Mueller spent 2 years and 30 million and found nothing on Trump period.


Now, we can discuss how Obamas personal attorneys named Holder and Lynch worked with Obama to cover up massive amounts of crimes including the meeting with Lynch and Bill.


The real criminals are scared to death, Obama, Hillary and many of their thug friends are going to jail for multiple crimes including treason, obstruction, collusion, money laundering, fraud, pedogate and of course illegal spying on American citizens in an attempt to steal our election then tried to remove a duly elected and popular President with the same fake spying and fake documents.


Yes, Obama spied on Trump as a citizen and as a sitting US President. Lock this con man up now.
Freeze his stolen assets, order him to a house arrest and start investigating his massive amounts of crimes.


The real anti American treasonous traitor cannot get away with what he has done.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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I think you got it twisted. It was the loons on the left that told us trump was a Russian asset and colluded with the Putin government. It doesn’t get more conspiracy theory than that. “But the propaganda media told us it was true!”
Nope. Mueller pointed out ten different instances where Trump tried to impede this investigation, aka obstruction. But carry on. And for what it's worth, with all the discussion about this report, those who support Trump will continue to support him, including the Senate and other GOP, and those who don't won't.
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Mueller's key findings via WaPo
Mueller's key findings
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Mueller rejects the argument that the president is shielded from obstruction laws.

Trump, when told of appointment of special counsel Mueller, said: “This is the end of my presidency.”

“Substantial evidence” supports Comey over Trump in account of Flynn meeting.

Trump campaign attempted to obtain Hillary Clinton’s private emails.

Campaign expected to benefit from stolen information released by the Russians.

Mueller probe spawned 14 other investigations, including two unidentified cases that remain ongoing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...244df70#SHIELD
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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The whole roll-out here is simply Trump doing what Trump does best. He's a master of PR and will stoop lower than his counterparts can even imagine.

Report going to be damning for you? Appoint a stooge, have him give the legal opinion you want, withhold the report for an extended period of time so that message resonates, repeat messaging ad nauseum, redact out damaging material, repeat message one last time to massive coverage extolling "no collusion", run off to vacation so that you don't have to answer for any of it.

He played the dems. His base doesn't really care if what he did should lead to impeachment or not, they only care if not impeaching him is defensible in the court of public opinion. Because of the roll-out, it is. Trump won
 
Old 04-18-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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Hahahaha. Their pundit Chuck Todd has had a complete meltdown over it. It's amusing to watch.
The credibility of these people has been completely annihilated by this exercise. Not that this was the only thing, but it was their Nagasaki moment. In case any more was needed to remove even the most sub-atomically small lingering shred of credibility that somehow remained, this was the final end of it.

And now they realize the gig is up. They lied through their teeth in the most aggressive, shrill and out of control manner that is possible for human beings to produce - for at least the last 2.5 years, and actually longer. They were so pleased with themselves as long as they could still say:
'Well, we just don't know. Mueller surely has a whole train-load of bombshells, ready to unload on Donald Trump, which he will explode at the end. So we just have to assume that Trump is as bad if not worse than Adolph Hitler until then. Hehehehe. {We are getting away with it!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!}'
But now it is over and so are they. Their credibility will not be recoverable in these people's lifetimes. And now they are sad and mad. Too Bad.
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