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Old 04-16-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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She's right, you know.

The GOP--with the exception of Massie, Amash, Paul, and Lee--is now the party of socialism. Trump is the most socialist President since FDR, and MAGA is the biggest socialist movement since the Progressive Era of the 1890s-1920s. Trump is pretty much the modern day Robert M. La Follette.

Remember also that the Progressive Movement consisted of members from both Ds and Rs; that's why Bernie's and Trump's ideologies are so similar.

 
Old 04-16-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Its funny that you are trying to convince the people here that Trump is a socialist .. we get it, you don't like Trump...
 
Old 04-16-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Its funny that you are trying to convince the people here that Trump is a socialist .. we get it, you don't like Trump...
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
 
Old 04-16-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Its funny that you are trying to convince the people here that Trump is a socialist .. we get it, you don't like Trump...
He is a socialist--he redistributes wealth. He takes it from the middle class and gives it to the one-percent, his cronies, corporations, himself and his family. Combined with being a populist, demagogue and autocrat--danger ahead.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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Socialist has been thrown around so much it essentially has no meaning anymore.

Like when people use to say something is gay. Like “dude, that movie is gay”
Or “dude why do we have so much homework? Thats so gay man!”

Use to mean happy, then it meant homosexual, then it meant to describe anything one doesn’t like. It went back to the previous meaning though. It will never mean “happy” again..
 
Old 04-16-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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He is a socialist--he redistributes wealth. He takes it from the middle class and gives it to the one-percent, his cronies, corporations, himself and his family. Combined with being a populist, demagogue and autocrat--danger ahead.
You have it completely backwards.

He takes wealth and property from the producers and gives it to the non-producers. And the wall is a communist government jobs program.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: USA
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Socialist has been thrown around so much it essentially has no meaning anymore.

Like when people use to say something is gay. Like “dude, that movie is gay”
Or “dude why do we have so much homework? Thats so gay man!”

Use to mean happy, then it meant homosexual, then it meant to describe anything one doesn’t like. It went back to the previous meaning though. It will never mean “happy” again..
Indeed.

For example:

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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
He is a socialist--he redistributes wealth. He takes it from the middle class and gives it to the one-percent, his cronies, corporations, himself and his family. Combined with being a populist, demagogue and autocrat--danger ahead.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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OP is "seminar caller." Not worth speaking to. He has no idea what a socialist is, only that more people don't like them than do, so he might as well label Trump as one.

As for Pelosi, she has seen something that has spooked her. Ordinarily, the Dems are perfectly happy to give any leftist creep--socialist, communist, anarchist, whatever--a place to go. She has seen some polling data that suggests that a good majority of American people are fearful of the rise of socialism, or something, so now she is doing damage control.

Good luck San Fran Nan.
 
Old 04-16-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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OP is "seminar caller." Not worth speaking to. He has no idea what a socialist is, only that more people don't like them than do, so he might as well label Trump as one.

As for Pelosi, she has seen something that has spooked her. Ordinarily, the Dems are perfectly happy to give any leftist creep--socialist, communist, anarchist, whatever--a place to go. She has seen some polling data that suggests that a good majority of American people are fearful of the rise of socialism, or something, so now she is doing damage control.

Good luck San Fran Nan.
Trump called for another round of QE. QE largely benefits one class by costing another class.

Describe those actions for me?
 
Old 04-16-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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OP is "seminar caller." Not worth speaking to. He has no idea what a socialist is, only that more people don't like them than do, so he might as well label Trump as one.
"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all." --Frédéric Bastiat

Seems like I understand socialism far better than you do.

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Ordinarily, the Dems are perfectly happy to give any leftist creep--socialist, communist, anarchist, whatever--a place to go.
Anarchists aren't leftists.

But the GOP is every bit as left-socialist as the Democrats.
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