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Old 04-21-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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That's because Oklahoma is viewed, like Mississippi, as one of the worst states to move to in the country, due to lack of positive image and decent paying jobs. The only family I know of who moved to Oklahoma from California did it because the father's California job was transferable to a town in Oklahoma, while the pay remained the same.

The main industry in OK is gas (fracking) and oil? Most well paying jobs is by extracting natural resources from the land.

 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't mind Pasadena, California simply because I lived there before. It is a beautiful place.

I don't really care about "most liberal city" part, I don't know anybody who are obsessed with politics in real life.

This said, my fiance has taken me to his hometown before. He came from a very conservative small southern town. I loved people there, I don't mind visiting. The place is rather boring to me, but other than that, I love the people there more than the people here in southern california.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Scottsdale is the only place on either list I would consider. On the first list most of those places have a cost of living that is prohibitive. Truth be known I'm quite happy here in N NV. Operative word being Northern. I believe that all of Clark county should become part of CA.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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47%
I wasn’t even close lol. It is very Conservative I’m my area. Nice friendly people. Can’t say the same just south of here in liberal Tempe.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Ive been to some of these towns. I find that the more liberal a town, people tend to be in a hurry and rude. And traffic generally sucks. The so called “diversity’ of any area generally make me feel like a stranger in my own land, unwelcome.
Very much so.

I like the people in Southern states more than I like the people here in southern California.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: London
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What makes diversity a good thing?
It's more interesting having friends from all walks of lives than being surrounded only by generic Karens and Daves.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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I wasn’t even close lol. It is very Conservative I’m my area. Nice friendly people. Can’t say the same just south of here in liberal Tempe.
To the north, agreed. Once you get to Old Town and south of there, it gets young and liberal. Scottsdale’s a nice town.

Tempe is booming as well, but it’s definitely less clean than Scottsdale.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The quality of life is much better in liberal cities.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:27 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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and it's why cities are so much liberal and rural areas so conservative - most of those people in rural areas most likely never saw a Jew, Muslim, Mexican or black person - all they see is what Fox News and right wing media shows them.


and the natural human reaction to seeing someone different from you? fear.
Also, note well I said nothing about race/ethnicity, orientation, religion, etc. Yet they are important for the simple reason that different people have different life experiences and thought processes. That means even an all-white town far away from the usual diversity categories can still be diverse IF they do not snub, mock, ridicule, or abuse people otherwise "of their own type" who happen to think differently. I'm not just talking politics and other hot-potato issues usually squabbled about on this forum. I mean "different" in even basic common everyday definitions of respectable, normal, etc. person - even those who are unique, different, and just outright weird (I learned this almost 1/4 century ago when I first moved to a moderately big city).
 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Much of Oklahoma is rather depressing. One of the few places you can buy homes sub 70k.

That said, some areas near OKC are very nice.
That's true. About the only place doing fairly well is Oklahoma City and to a less extent, Tulsa. Outside, of there most of the small towns are on the decline, if not, maybe stagnant at best. I believe the same can be said of the Plains states in general. The only places not draining out of population are generally the major metros. So the reason why Oklahoma is not doing all that well isn't all together due to bad Republican leadership at the state capitol.
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