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Old 04-23-2019, 06:27 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I know this is off topic, but I was curious, why did the textbooks want to teach disabled children masturbation, or what would be the reason to teach it, that they were behind?
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Because of their (false) assumption that children with disabilities won't be able to find partners to have sex with once they grow up. But I also think the agenda was about grooming teachers to feel okay with having sexual conversations with kids, blurring the lines of what's appropriate and what's not.
Here’s the rationale - Supporting People with Learning Disabilities in their Sexuality

But, no, that should not be taught by the public schools or by school personnel. Talk about opening a Pandora’s box.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:11 AM
 
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Did I mention anything about pedophilia in my previous post?....No, I did not.

No. As stated above, In my previous post (that you were replying to with this post that I am now replying to) I didn't say anything about pedophilia.
This thread is about education, agendas, and pedophilia in the classroom.

Stay on topic. If you want to discuss other topics? Start another thread.
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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well, in the fairly recent past, it was common to hear such things in regards to homosexuality too!!


Heck, if you want to go even further back, there was a time when people with certain mental conditions,and/or physical diseases, where they were labelled as 'disgusting, evil, demonic, etc, with Lepers, people even wanted them separated from the rest of the public, sort of shunned from society (for something they literally had no control over and of course we now know today, this was not indicative of demonic activity or other such things!


Im not rooting for pedphilia or anything, Im just pointing out, society has been on this path before, its nothing new or special, we are very good at eventually coming around to accept something, that was once viewed as criminal, evil, etc.
In the case of people who rape, molest, sexually abuse children, it is true. It will always be true. If the mindset of the people change so that they believe otherwise, then they are as evil as the pervert child rapist, child molestor, sexual abuser of children.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Then I give you a public apology. I was wrong. I have just been down this rabbit hole dozens of times, and have run into all sorts of characters that cling to completely fictional beliefs. You are not one of those, and I jumped the gun.

But it happens. We're even. My Dad had an extensive library and If I had actually read up in other volumes about ancient Greece I probably would have come across the contradictory information on what I had already perused that you gave me but I moved on.


At that time period I was at odds with my HS civics teacher, a Berkely graduate , about Viet Nam and I got sidetracked into more modern times. He and I had gone round and round as he had stated there was never a chance we could have won inn Viet Nam on and on it went. He made a class project where we were all supposed to watch Jane Fonda in Coming Home and do a report on it which I refused to do. My Dad spent 3 years in Viet Nam and I hate Jane Fonda.


I wound up getting an alternate assignment on how we could have won the war. LOL, he didn't have a chance. I had Ngyuen Giaps book Peoples War Peoples Army. It is a blow by blow completely outlining his strategy for defeating the US much of it using the principals from Tsun Tsu's Art of War. He followed it to the letter and he wrote this book before we even got heavily involved. Good stuff. I got an A on my paper.


So perhaps I trusted what was in the library in those earlier texts a bit to much. Seems so. At any rate This current quandary about teaching pedophilia as part of a world history curriculum I just can't digest. I don't see how sexual habits let alone pedophilia have any bearing at all on what HS students would or should be studying about history.


That is an obscure cultural detail that has no bearing on the outcome of major events that shaped the world. Thus I smell a rat and I believe this school administrator has an agenda. He's not even bothering to try and conceal it. This business of treating pedophilia as a "sexual orientation" is not only dangerous it is flat disgusting and that will never be tied to any "enlightenment" of our society. People are willing to die to protect their children which is as it should be and these pedophiles think they have some sort of right to victimize them? Do they expect parental consent on this? .


That this would even become an open debate just boggles my mind. There are some things that are a constant that have no place in the advancement of our society in social attitudes. They are fixed and immutable and should remain thus. Murder will always be a crime as will robbery rape and assault. Pedophilia falls in that category in spades.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:56 AM
 
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Hm.

Do you think society should come around and accept it?
Absolutely NOT.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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Hell effing no. Do NOT normalize predators, and please do not insult actual LGBT+ people by lumping them in with those disgusting monsters.

That's like including "racists" among a list of different European heritages (Irish, Latvian, Italian, etc).

It just doesn't compute.
They are not 'lumping' this together with the LGBT crowd, its just the method used to eventually get the public to tolerate and accept them, is the same (thats the only connection).


Look around today, look at how people are treated that still believe homosexuality is wrong,,,eventually, people that believe pedophilia is wrong, will be in the same group.


The 'sexual revolution', that started in the early 60s is still taking place, it will never reach a stopping point, as there will always be sexual preferences that are viewed as wrong, taboo, etc, the sexual revolution is always on the fringe, 50 yrs from now, it will be something else, and so on and so on.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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In San Francisco schools they're trying to promote fecophilia as a sexual orientation so public defecation in the streets isn't negatively viewed and people learn to accept it.
link? and what does that have to do with this topic?

Heterosexual is a sexual orientation and public sex acts between a man and women are still not tolerated.
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Old 04-23-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Recognizing even accepting that people with such conditions exist doesn't equate to normalizing or tolerating possible behaviors. It is, however, the first step to protecting future victims.
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Old 05-05-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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Because of their (false) assumption that children with disabilities won't be able to find partners to have sex with once they grow up. But I also think the agenda was about grooming teachers to feel okay with having sexual conversations with kids, blurring the lines of what's appropriate and what's not.
But isn't teaching a child about masturbation redundant? I mean the children are going to find out what it is anyway, and even people with partners masturbate on their own time.
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Old 05-06-2019, 12:04 AM
 
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But it seems to me that this won't be opening Pandor's box as it would be just unnecessary, cause they are going to learn it anyway. Or, if it is opening pandor's box, how is it exactly?
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