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Old 05-02-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Originally Posted by RowingFiend View Post
Name-calling again. Well, it's all you really have left.
You mean like these names the President YOU support has called people: "Lyin' Hillary", "Crooked Hillary", "Leakin' Lyin' James Comey", "Lyin' Ted", "Jeff Flakey", "Al Frankenstien", "Wacky Omarosa", "Cheatin' Obama", "MS-13 Lover Nancy Pelosi", "Little Marco", "Crazy Bernie", "Little/Liddle Adam Schiff/Schitt", "Cryin' Chuck", "Pocahontas", "Low-IQ Maxine Waters", "Crazy Jim Acosta", "Failing Glenn Beck", "No Talent Samantha Bee", "Dumb as a Rock Mika", "Crazy Megyn"...
Is that enough for ya'? If not there's several dozen other names the guy YOU support calls people on a regular basis.

Or - from Trump supporters on THIS board: "Obamanation", "Democraps", etc, etc, etc.

Seems like if it's good enough for the President and his supporters here on CD to call folks names, it should be plenty good enough for some nobody like me.
If you have a problem with name calling maybe you should start with the orange-headed god YOU put in office. He's the one who apparently makes it "OK".

Ken

 
Old 05-02-2019, 06:21 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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You mean like these names the President YOU support has called people: "Lyin' Hillary", "Crooked Hillary", "Leakin' Lyin' James Comey", "Lyin' Ted", "Jeff Flakey", "Al Frankenstien", "Wacky Omarosa", "Cheatin' Obama", "MS-13 Lover Nancy Pelosi", "Little Marco", "Crazy Bernie", "Little/Liddle Adam Schiff/Schitt", "Cryin' Chuck", "Pocahontas", "Low-IQ Maxine Waters", "Crazy Jim Acosta", "Failing Glenn Beck", "No Talent Samantha Bee", "Dumb as a Rock Mika", "Crazy Megyn"...
Is that enough for ya'? If not there's several dozen other names the guy YOU support calls people on a regular basis.

Or - from Trump supporters on THIS board: "Obamanation", "Democraps", etc, etc, etc.

Seems like if it's good enough for the President and his supporters here on CD to call folks names, it should be plenty good enough for some nobody like me.
If you have a problem with name calling maybe you should start with the orange-headed god YOU put in office. He's the one who apparently makes it "OK".

Ken
Alas, I can't control what other people say. Trump is still your President and will be for another five years, so I suppose we'd better get used to name-calling. You appear fine with it since you engage in it.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Alas, I can't control what other people say. Trump is still your President and will be for another five years, so I suppose we'd better get used to name-calling. You appear fine with it since you engage in it.
More like 20 more months - unless he refuses to accept the upcoming election results.

Ken
 
Old 05-02-2019, 06:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
There were not "approval" polls prior to the election.

There were polls asking who you would vote for, but that's not the same thing as an approval poll.
That's right -- but asking whom you would vote for is guaranteed to produce a higher figure than an approval figure. Millions upon millions of people disapprove of Trump's performance as President (because he has not done what he promised), but they will vote for him again.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Ok lefties... keep relying on “polls”. they’ll be your downfall again in 2020.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Ok lefties... keep relying on “polls”. they’ll be your downfall again in 2020.
The polls were FINE. The problem in 2016 was TURNOUT because no one (not even Trump HIMSELF) really expected Trump to win, so many Democratic-leaning folks didn't bother to vote - and even THEN Hillary still got 2 MILLION+ more votes than Trump. That complacence WON'T happen again. Just look at the 2018 election - a mid-term (when Democrats rarely turn out in big numbers) - and yet they DID in a BIG way. Trump's election has energized the Democrats in a way Hillary couldn't - and THIS time no amount of Russian attempts to suppress Democratic turnout is going to work. The Blue wave that started in 2018 will climb even higher in 2020.
2018 gave Democrats the House and 2020 will likely give them the Senate and (especially) the White House.


Ken

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Old 05-02-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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Your comment makes me think you don't know what a poll is...

"An approval rating is a percentage determined by a polling which indicates the percentage of respondents to an opinion poll who approve of a particular person or program."

Pretty simple really. How is a poll propaganda? Or what am I missing?
You're missing a lot, but the main thing you're missing is the fact that pollsters can manipulate the result by choosing an unrepresentative sample/
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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RCP avg has Trump currently at 43%, 6 points above his low of 37 in Dec 2017.

If you look at President Obama's ratings from 2011, they look remarkably similar to Trump's. A little higher, but not much. Mostly low 40s, though Obama did sneak into 50/51 2 or three times, whereas Trump never has.

Obama won re-election fairly easily.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I posted this before, but it bears repetition: since 1912, only 4 sitting presidents have run for election and lost--Taft (1912), Hoover (1932), Carter(1980) and HW Bush(1992).

Taft and Bush faced 3rd party candidates that split their parties vote (Roosevelt in 1912, Perot in 1992).
Hoover and Carter both suffered from economic woes.

Right now it doesn't look like either of those two factors will be present in 2020.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
I posted this before, but it bears repetition: since 1912, only 4 sitting presidents have run for election and lost--Taft (1912), Hoover (1932), Carter(1980) and HW Bush(1992).

Taft and Bush faced 3rd party candidates that split their parties vote (Roosevelt in 1912, Perot in 1992).
Hoover and Carter both suffered from economic woes.

Right now it doesn't look like either of those two factors will be present in 2020.
Good points made, and thanks for pointing that out, but few Presidents have been as unhinged and psychologically unstable as Trump. He is in another league all by himself, and time will tell if it worsens before the election.
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