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Old 05-15-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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So all of you "libertarian" and "moderate" Trump voters who chose Trump because you find Hillary "unlikable" and because he "tells it like it is", whatever the f that means.....you think this was a good move now? Emboldening the most reactionary forces in our nation to take action. Brilliant move, dummies.
They wont care because the pretense of being "libertarian" and/or "moderate" was a lie from the get go.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:15 AM
 
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I believe you are intentionally confusing the word independence post birth with parasitic survival on the mother's body, just as you are conflating clumps of fertilized cells with a baby.
You believe children are parasites? What a skewed view of the world. No wonder you support killing babies.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:16 AM
 
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So all of you "libertarian" and "moderate" Trump voters who chose Trump because you find Hillary "unlikable" and because he "tells it like it is", whatever the f that means.....you think this was a good move now? Emboldening the most reactionary forces in our nation to take action. Brilliant move, dummies.
You think one issue trumps the entire political platform?
Abortion is a state issue and these bans will continue to be challenged in court.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Alabama is close to passing an abortion ban. Good for them. But I’m sure some “judge†will “block†the Democratic law. Even the current SCOTUS won’t back a full ban.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Know any babies that are 100% independent at birth? Don't need anyone to care for them, feed them, clothe them, etc.?
They all are.

They sure need to be fed and taken care of, but not from another human body's.

When you find a way for fetuses to be taken care of in the same way, we might have a talk.

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Old 05-15-2019, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Majority RULES.
In what world ?

If majority truly ruled, Trump would never have been elected.

AND you'd be in a real mess..... women are the majority too, you know?

Majority should not rule if we don't want to live in a world of tyrany, and yes, my view include you and your backway thoughts, you do have a right to think what you do.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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That's a lie. There is and never has been any such thing as an abortion on the delivery table.


I think back to all the folks who told me how paranoid I was in the 2016 election for being a 'single issue voter' and worrying about Roe v Wade.


The Republican war on women continues and yes, they do want to take us back to the dark ages. Thank God I have had my kids and will never have to worry about it.
I’m registered Independent (No I did NOT vote for Trump) and have always voted for the person not the party. But, due to the absurdity of these bills, I just became a single issue voter too. That’s all these bills will accomplish. They’ll push those of us who are moderate to vote solely for candidates that support the right to choose.

And I’m far from the only one who feels this way. The attached link shows that moderates, regardless of where they live, support abortion being legal and available.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-l...logy/moderate/
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:35 AM
 
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Making anything illegal doesn't stop any activity. People still steal, murder, assault, beat their kids, etc. But it limits it.

No it punishes those who do those things and pulls them off the street so they can't do it again. As the term Crime and Punishment implies. So if you are putting abortion in the same category as beating one's kids or murder then you want to lock women up who have an abortion? Punish them and pull them off the street? That is your solution?


The way I look at it is very different. Things that a large amount of the population believe should be legal, like say using alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, eating junk food or owning a firearm as well as abortions. Making those sorts of things illegal just creates a black market. Very different than child abuse which is universally considered wrong by just about everyone even the ones who do it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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This is a reaction to the left wing nut jobs who want to allow abortions even as the babies head is crowning. At 10 weeks the embryo becomes a fetus. The fetus is viable outside the womb at about 20 weeks. So what should be the limit to having an abortion? Conception? Heart beat (28 days)? Until it is a fetus? Until it is viable? How can anyone say after the fetus is viable? The Georgia law is 6 weeks, the Alabama law is conception. Can there be any compromise? Who would go along with 10 weeks? That is plenty of time to know you are pregnant.

Stop spreading lies or show us ONE example of a fetus viable at 20 weeks (less than 3 months) ? Please? You might have found a solution after all?

Or are you just spouting numbers out of somewhere I never wish to visit?
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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No it punishes those who do those things and pulls them off the street so they can't do it again. So if you are putting abortion in the same category as beating one's kids or murder then you want to lock women up who have an abortion? Punish them and pull them off the street?


The way I look at it is very different. Things that a large amount of the population believe should be legal, like say using alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana or owning a firearm as well as abortions. Making those sorts of things illegal just creates a black market. Very different than child abuse which is universally considered wrong by just about everyone even the ones who do it.
Don't worry, she also wants to force a 11yrs old raped child to continue her pregnancy as to "not violate her anymore".

Morals, indeed.
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