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Old 04-24-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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Why does it have to come to that so often. I think we all know where babies come from.

Contraception is cheap...wear a damn rubber!
Contraception fails. People make mistakes. I don't think forcing women to give birth against their will is the answer to those realities. But the pro-forced birthers absolutely do.

Do you?
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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Why does it have to come to that so often. I think we all know where babies come from.



Contraception is cheap...wear a damn rubber!
I agree but the reality is 51% of women reported using birth control when they become pregnant, the most common method: condoms.
Then you have women who are teenagers (10%) and may not have money/access/knowledge.
A segment of addicts/alcoholics who dont have the mental facilities.
Those that just dont have the mental facilities.
Women pressured/forced into sex.
And those just irresponsible or caught up in the moment.
Yes in a perfect world everyone would use 4 types of BC everytime and there would be 0 unplanned pregnancies but we dont live in a perfect world.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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A lot of people who are pro choice don’t believe that the decision to abort impacts anyone other then the mother making the decisions.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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A lot of people who are pro choice don’t believe that the decision to abort impacts anyone other then the mother making the decisions.
How many and how do you know what they think?
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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How many and how do you know what they think?
Because they have said, “when it comes to abortion it doesn’t impact anyone else other then the mother making the decision”.

I’m pro-choice by the way but find the denial of the fact that abortion ends a life, by some who are also pro-choice to be a complete denial of reality.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Because they have said, “when it comes to abortion it doesn’t impact anyone else other then the mother making the decision”.

I’m pro-choice by the way but find the denial of the fact that abortion ends a life, by some who are also pro-choice to be a complete denial of reality.
It's not a denial of reality, it's a difference of opinion. You think it's the end of a life; I think it's the end of a potential life. A living, breathing, sentient, thinking, feeling woman has a life. An unaware zygote does not.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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and that is our laws. Whether or not anyone believes abortions should be legal at any stage they are not unless the mothers life is in jeopardy and/or the fetus is non viable.
So why go on about abortion in the 7th, 8th, and 9th month when those are less than 1% and done only in those situations?
NY and other States says late term abortion can occur for health reasons associated with the mother - not that her life is in jeopardy. Very different.

Further, there is no life jeopardising condition for the mother in late pregnancy that requires the delivery of a dead child to fix the problem.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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NY and other States says late term abortion can occur for health reasons associated with the mother - not that her life is in jeopardy. Very different.

Further, there is no life jeopardising condition for the mother in late pregnancy that requires the delivery of a dead child to fix the problem.
Are you a doctor?
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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Because they have said, “when it comes to abortion it doesn’t impact anyone else other then the mother making the decision”.

I’m pro-choice by the way but find the denial of the fact that abortion ends a life, by some who are also pro-choice to be a complete denial of reality.
I have never heard or seen written anyone say that.
Is this something you hear in your own life or have seen posted or said by groups on TV?
I might agree if no one knew of the pregnancy the decision wouldn't affect another living person.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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It should also be noted that Nik was born in Siberia to Russian parents. The medical care his mother received was almost certainly substandard compared to the U.S., and what the doctor did would probably be considered malpractice here.


let me interpret for the politically challenged.


"we are better at killing babies in America."
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