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Old 04-26-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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That doesn't explain why he continues to do it, and with more regularity.

Everyone here understands why he does it.
So what that he does? Such a non-issue IMO.
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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Franklin Graham condemns Buttigieg but defends Trump, double standard. So because Trumps on his side he gets a pass. when it comes to Trump the best he can do is state that "he's not the best example of the Christian faith. Surely he can come up with a slightly harsher criticism.





https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-gay-christian



Franklin Graham just expressed his opinion based on a book written by man, that's all! Until God, speaks for himself, man will continue to voice his corrupt opinions referencing scriptures from a book of fiction to support his hate and hypocrisy.
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I think he should at least offer to point out just WHERE the Bible lists a Good Christian/Bad Christian scale and how he's determined the realtive 'badness' of adultery vs. homosexulaity?
Common sense......adultery is worse than homosexuality.

Being homosexual hurts no one.

Committing adultery breaks families apart, hurts children and in most cases breaks a specific promise made to "God".

But, of course, religion has nothing to do with common sense.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Franklin Graham rails against Buttigieg for calling himself 'gay Christian'

People who believe in Jesus Christ are Christians.

It's not our place to judge one another, that will be done for us ...
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Graham is himself no Christian despite what he thinks.
Like you would have any idea what a Christian is

Graham is interpreting the Bible and that's his right and his job frankly so I have no problem that this is his opinion. I agree from a Biblical standpoint, Gay marriage is not supported so in interpreting the Bible, I think this is the correct interpretation.

But I can also interpret and have my own opinion which is that God created all of us including all that are gay and the Bible says Jesus loves us all....so I don't see how someone can seriously be condemned for something they were created to be. I can see how you can say you shouldn't try to promote this behavior. To me it's the same as heterosexual activity outside of marriage....we may want to do it but we shouldn't be promoting it and calling it good.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Common sense......adultery is worse than homosexuality.

Being homosexual hurts no one.

Committing adultery breaks families apart, hurts children and in most cases breaks a specific promise made to "God".

But, of course, religion has nothing to do with common sense.
Then again he is a evangelic, thus no hierarchy of sin. It is the 100% you either are or not standard. An adultery who stopped, or tried to stop and asked for forgiveness is different from the polyandrous man who claims that multiple sexual partners is fine for Christians that would be the equivalent of a homosexual claiming that same sex partners is fine for Christians.

I bet in Graham's eyes the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit as represented by what he sees as a sinner saying sin is fine, in God's name, is the big bug-aboo. Not the sin of having sex with a man.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:39 AM
 
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I'm not sure why you would tie it to Christian beliefs. Its human behavior and its been around longer than the hole in the fence.
The hypocrisy is tied to Christian beliefs. Forgiveness...is actually hypocrisy, the license to do most anything and then profess "faith" as the excuse as to why you can now be trusted.

I don't picture that politicians of old did what I just mentioned...that is, campaigned on "I folk my wife" type of platform. They may have discussed morality and ethics, but the personalization of "I folk my wife only, but those others I am running against might not!".......seems a fixture of the modern GOP.

It's a last gasp of what they can stand upon...and as we see from the Christians in NYC (120 more child molesters fingered today), morality of any particular set of people cannot be called superior to that of any others. It's a personal thing and not a political one.

If anything, religion has been a cover for unethical behavior. It would be nice if it stopped.
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Old 04-27-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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Common sense......adultery is worse than homosexuality.

Being homosexual hurts no one.

Committing adultery breaks families apart, hurts children and in most cases breaks a specific promise made to "God".

But, of course, religion has nothing to do with common sense.
Well, I'm super liberal and live and let live, but I take a bit of exception to this.

My thinking is that my wife would be very hurt if she found out I was messing around with rentboys or even a lover. I'd be hurt if I found out she was active in the local lesbian community.

Adultery does seem worse in the sense that it can cause reproduction as well as perhaps even deeper hurts...if one engages in recreational sex with the same sex, it would seem easier to declare it as recreation. If one does so with the opposite sex while married, there is often a more complicated expectation(s) which may come into play.

Let's face it - sex very often ends up hurting people emotionally no matter what! 50 years later I still remember when my two GFs sat me down and made me choose. I chose the more chaste one....as opposed to the wild gal who was an awful lot of fun.

But that's me. I'm totally a no-drama person...to the extreme.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Well, I'm super liberal and live and let live, but I take a bit of exception to this.

My thinking is that my wife would be very hurt if she found out I was messing around with rentboys or even a lover. I'd be hurt if I found out she was active in the local lesbian community.

Adultery does seem worse in the sense that it can cause reproduction as well as perhaps even deeper hurts...if one engages in recreational sex with the same sex, it would seem easier to declare it as recreation. If one does so with the opposite sex while married, there is often a more complicated expectation(s) which may come into play.

Let's face it - sex very often ends up hurting people emotionally no matter what! 50 years later I still remember when my two GFs sat me down and made me choose. I chose the more chaste one....as opposed to the wild gal who was an awful lot of fun.

But that's me. I'm totally a no-drama person...to the extreme.
Adultery is defined as cheating on the person you are married to. That would include man/woman, man/man, woman/woman.

When you commit adultery you are breaking a promise you made to your spouse. It is a hurtful thing to do to someone, betraying trust.

Sexual orientation in itself does not hurt someone.

When you commit adultery, you are choosing to hurt someone.

That's how I see it.......common sense, not religious dogma.
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Old 04-27-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Franklin Graham isn't carrying on the tradition of his father.

He's simply filling in for Jerry Falwell.

I report. You decide.

The Treaty of Tripoli wasn't written by George Washington or John Adams. It was written by the American ambassador at a time when George Washington was literally paying tribute to the Barbary states(IE Muslims) to stop them from enslaving American sailors.


George Washington was getting America cucked by Muslims. But then my man Thomas Jefferson got tired of it and kicked the **** out of the Barbary states pretty much the moment he became president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars


The reason the ambassador wrote what he wrote, is because if the United States is a "Christian Nation", then it is an enemy of Islam.
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