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Old 04-28-2019, 12:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
I never said it did.

What I saidf is that all places will be accessed in relation top food hygiene standards and if there is a serious breach they could be closed down.

In terms of jewellery, uncovered beard, piercings it can still be still noted as an area for improvement in relation to a follow up visit.
The topic of this thread is about tattoos & piercings. The topic is not about handwashing, exclusion of workers for illness, cooking temperatures, unapproved source, hot/cold holding temperatures or cleaning of equipment. It is about tattoos & piercings. In relation to the topic, an establishment will NOT be closed for workers wearing jewelry. An establishment will NOT be closed for workers having tattoos, that isn't even a violation in the food code. If workers have unrestrained hair or are wearing a lot of jewelry, the establishment can be written up a violation for that however, it is all covered under ONE violation. The report will not list each person in violation. So no, an establishment will NOT be closed for that. Understand?
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The topic of this thread is about tattoos & piercings. The topic is not about handwashing, exclusion of workers for illness, cooking temperatures, unapproved source, hot/cold holding temperatures or cleaning of equipment. It is about tattoos & piercings. In relation to the topic, an establishment will NOT be closed for workers wearing jewelry. An establishment will NOT be closed for workers having tattoos, that isn't even a violation in the food code. If workers have unrestrained hair or are wearing a lot of jewelry, the establishment can be written up a violation for that however, it is all covered under ONE violation. The report will not list each person in violation. So no, an establishment will NOT be closed for that. Understand?
pink is really the bottom line, well said
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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People with tattoos and body piercing are scary
I try to focus on the transaction at hand and not their need to dress up for Halloween
This is helped by the fact that I have known many that I should have been afraid of -none of them had visible tattoos nor body piercing
People that want to make others afraid have issues not strength
Very little personal power
I wouldn't call them scary, just impulsive and too bored. You get one body, why on earth would you want to jeopardize your employment with tattoos and piecing and crazy hair color?

If I had my own company, I would do what I want, but as long as I work for someone else I'm going to present a professional image. My income depends on it.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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pink is really the bottom line, well said
Thanks. I just realized that poster doesn't live in the states, maybe it's different over there, I don't know.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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We don't really tip where I am, but I would tip for level of service, rather than presentation.

Would rather not get served by tattooed and pierced folk though .We recently had a waiter with stretched earlobes , and all manner of tats and steel protrusions -felt a bit like a freak show.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:22 PM
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Location: Great Britain
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Many are covered in tattoos, let's not kid ourselves, okay? Many wear body piercings.

The bottom line is that Goth also have a different look.

You made it sound like many American waiters are covered in tattoos. This is certainly not true.
Goths were never covered in tattoos, especially in the 80's, they had white skin and tended to follow bands such as Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Mission, The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, Alien Sex Fiend etc.

Tattoos in the 80's were no where near as popular as they are today, and there aren't as many Goths around anymore.

You still have gathering grounds for Goths, Whitby in Yorkshire being a favourite, as they like the creepy old streetsm it's links to Bram Stockers Dracula and Abbey and the other old and scary surroundngs. The pubs are still full of goths on weekend breaks in Whitby.

Whitby Goth Weekend - Wikipedia

Whitby will have FOUR goth festivals this year as rival events go head - Yorkshire Post

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Old 04-28-2019, 12:27 PM
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Location: Great Britain
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The topic of this thread is about tattoos & piercings. The topic is not about handwashing, exclusion of workers for illness, cooking temperatures, unapproved source, hot/cold holding temperatures or cleaning of equipment. It is about tattoos & piercings. In relation to the topic, an establishment will NOT be closed for workers wearing jewelry. An establishment will NOT be closed for workers having tattoos, that isn't even a violation in the food code. If workers have unrestrained hair or are wearing a lot of jewelry, the establishment can be written up a violation for that however, it is all covered under ONE violation. The report will not list each person in violation. So no, an establishment will NOT be closed for that. Understand?


Once again I didnt say an establishment would be closed for that, what I said was in terms of jewellery, uncovered beard and piercings it can still be still noted as an area for improvement in relation to a follow up visit by inspectors, and you can still face fines or have your hygiene ranking lowered as a result.

In terms of food hygiene, the only jewellery allowed by food handlers is a wedding ring/band and that's it and by food handler that includes anyone who serves food in any capacity.

Tying back hair also helps to prevent contamination of food (such as hairs in food) and nets should be worn over long beards.

Any wound should be covered with a waterproof plaster. This should be in a "detectable" colour (usually blue) so that it is easily spotted if it were to fall off. Blue plasters can be bought from most supermarkets.

Personal Hygiene - Food Standards Agency
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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Once again I didnt say an establishment would be closed for that, what I said was in terms of jewellery, uncovered beard and piercings it can still be still noted as an area for improvement in relation to a follow up visit by inspectors, and you can still face fines or have your hygiene ranking lowered as a result.

In terms of food hygiene, the only jewellery allowed by food handlers is a wedding ring/band and that's it and by food handler that includes anyone who serves food in any capacity.

Tying back hair also helps to prevent contamination of food (such as hairs in food) and nets should be worn over long beards.

Any wound should be covered with a waterproof plaster. This should be in a "detectable" colour (usually blue) so that it is easily spotted if it were to fall off. Blue plasters can be bought from most supermarkets

Personal Hygiene - Food Standards Agency
I know the food code, trust me. The only time an establishment will get a fee is if the violation is a repeat violation, whether from the previous year, or if the violation hasn't been corrected in the follow up inspection.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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This thought is based on old societal standards that you now pine for, but no longer exist.

Your thread title states he was a good waiter. Stop thinking you should punish him for living with the times and making choices that are apparently acceptable to his manager and the company he works for.
I’d find another restaurant as I’d question the thought processes that lead to hiring someone for customer-facing job, and worry that such poor judgment also might extend to their food preparation process. Tipping would not enter into the encounter.

People have a right to “express” themselves. I have just as much right to an opinion on such expressions when they do so in public.
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Old 04-28-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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Everyone and their mother has tattoos nowadays. It used to be something only sailors and prostitutes did.

I wouldn't tip him less based on that but having tattoos doesn't really help anything either. Seems like people who have less money have the most visible tattoos.
From what ive seen, neck and face tattoos seem to be accepted today for the most part (these were always frowned upon back in my days).
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