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I wouldnt want to hand over my credit card to someone that looks like a gangbanger. Someone with a tattoo or 2, or someone with a tasteful nose peircing...ok. would tip well for good service no matter what they look like. But i would probably pay cash, and not use a credit card if they look shady.
Interesting. So lets just hypothetically say that two waiters are working in a restaurant. One has on a long sleeve buttoned up shirt while the other has a short sleeve shirt. The one with the short sleeves have a number of tattoos. So you would feel more comfortable paying with a credit card via the waiter with the long sleeve buttoned up shirt compared to the one with the short sleeve shirt showing tattoos? Mean while, the guy with the long sleeve shirt on is hiding more tattoos under the shirt.
Wouldn't this be a case of a false sense of security?
You won't see visible tattoos or nose-rings in pretty much any "White-collar" job. Even the military has recently banned visible tattoos(when Obama was president).
If you're a young and impressionable person, take my advice, don't ruin your life. These degenerates are trying to lead you astray to justify their own stupidity.
Did you even bother to read your own link? That's a relaxing of the tattoo policy. Basically anything below the neck and above the wrists is now authorized.
..."Society is changing its view of tattoos, and we have to change along with that," Odierno said. "It makes sense. Soldiers have grown up in an era when tattoos are much more acceptable and we have to change along with that."...
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I work a white-collar job, I'm an IT project manager, and I have a full sleeve on my right arm. Guess what? My company has ABSOLUTELY NO RULES about tattoos - visible or otherwise. This is not some rinky-dink local IT company, either. We're a global company with ~10K employees.
You said all that mattered to you is service. But you know a man with a swastika on his face would be a deal-breaker.
We are talking about a waiter in good standing with a restaurant and their business. We are talking typical tattoo'd people.. not outliers.
Swastika is a symbol of hatred. Hatred that can be expressed in their service and food safety.
Most people's tattoos are not a symbol of hatred... I doubt a restaurant owner would hire someone who had outward symbols of hate.
Similarly, I may not like Trump. But a waiter/waitress with a Trump supporting tattoo/clothing/hat would have no bearing on the treatment or respect I show towards them. I would still tip them based on their service.
Stop acting like you are of a higher moral standard and tough when obviously the concept of being open minded and understanding is beyond reach. If ink on skin is enough to sicken or disgust you, you have no standing to call someone else weak.
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You won't see visible tattoos or nose-rings in pretty much any "White-collar" job. Even the military has recently banned visible tattoos(when Obama was president).
If you're a young and impressionable person, take my advice, don't ruin your life. These degenerates are trying to lead you astray to justify their own stupidity.
Most countries outside of the US don't really tip that much, and wouldn't tip in respect of Take Aways, Fast food, Cafes, Coffee Shops and Casual Dining.
The only restaurant where you would leave a tip in most countries is in terms of fine dining, and in terms of fine dining you expect tattoos to be covered and staff to be immaculate in their presentation.
Tattoos are fine as long as they are covered up, they only generally become a problem if they are on a persons neck, face or hands.
In terms of piercings and jewellery there are hygiene and health and safety implications in many settings.
Such metal objects can carry germs and jewellery is usually not allowed when operating certain machinary.
In terms of the Army, you certainly wouldn't expect soldiers on ceremonial duties to have visible tattoos showing.
Going by the dictionary definition, I think there are far more degenerate things that happen in this world, than porn
Regardless, the people in porn get "tipped"(IE paid) less for having tattoos. Why should waiters be treated any better?
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Tattoos were banned in the military primarily because of health risks.
The rule isn't no tattoos. The rule is no visible tattoos. Had the issue been health risks, they would have either banned all tattoos or only barred "new tattoos" when stationed overseas.
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Did you even bother to read your own link? That's a relaxing of the tattoo policy. Basically anything below the neck and above the wrists is now authorized.
The rule is no tattoos that can be visible while in uniform. As it relates to this thread, presumably the waiter has visible tattoos.
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I work a white-collar job, I'm an IT project manager, and I have a full sleeve on my right arm. Guess what? My company has ABSOLUTELY NO RULES about tattoos - visible or otherwise. This is not some rinky-dink local IT company, either. We're a global company with ~10K employees.
You don't work with customers. I highly doubt anyone who is in public-relations or who interfaces with customers or clients is allowed to have visible tattoos. Also, did you get the sleeve tattoo before or after you were hired(not to say that I trust your answer anyway)?
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Swastika is a symbol of hatred. Hatred that can be expressed in their service and food safety.
I was using the swastika as an example because she claimed that her "only line" was the quality-of-service, and that she didn't care whatsoever about if, how many, and what kind of tattoos they had.
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Stop acting like you are of a higher moral standard and tough when obviously the concept of being open minded and understanding is beyond reach. If ink on skin is enough to sicken or disgust you, you have no standing to call someone else weak.
If you have a tattoo, I think less of you as a person. And I'm far from the only one. Even people who have tattoos think less of other people with tattoos(I posted a video a couple pages back in the thread).
If you have a tattoo, I will assume that you're a degenerate, and that you're going to use the money I hand you to buy drugs, alcohol, or something else wasteful and stupid. I would much rather give my money to a decent family-person with high-standards and morals.
When I'm tipping you, or hiring you, I'm doing you a favor, I'm helping you. And I would much rather help someone worthy of my help.
Imagine someone came up to you in the middle of the night at a gas-station, saying that his car ran out of gas down the street, and asked for $5 for gas. Would his appearance affect whether you would give him $5?
Obviously if he looked like an honest and decent person you would be more-likely to help him. If you look like a crackhead, the only people who want anything to do with you is other crackheads. Meth-heads love other meth-heads, and everyone else hates them.
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Tattoos are fine as long as they are covered up, they only generally become a problem if they are on a persons neck, face or hands.
Yes, as long as no one can see your tattoo, no one knows you have a tattoo. If no one knows you have a tattoo, then in-effect you don't have a tattoo.
I find it hilarious that all the triggered people in this thread won't even defend face tattoos. Even the snowflakes know that face tattoos are literally retarded. But they delude themselves into believing other tattoos are just fine.
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Huh. So the cops I’ve seen with tattoos, they’re degenerates too? Lol, your posts are hilariously absurd.
What is the personality-type of a police-officer? Could you be a police officer? Could your aunt be a police-officer?
IMHO, police tend to have a bully or tough-guy personalities, and them having tattoos doesn't surprise me. But even then, I'm pretty sure that police-departments have rules against visible tattoos(especially on the neck and face).
Of course not. What decent person would tip less because of a server's looks?
Their job as a waiter/waitress is to serve me my food and tend to any needs we have, not impress me with their fashion choices or cater their identity to me.
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Yes, as long as no one can see your tattoo, no one knows you have a tattoo. If no one knows you have a tattoo, then in-effect you don't have a tattoo.
I find it hilarious that all the triggered people in this thread won't even defend face tattoos. Even the snowflakes know that face tattoos are literally retarded. But they delude themselves into believing other tattoos are just fine.
I agree in terms of if you are going to have a tattoo and want to work in a customer service role then don't have it somewhere prominant where you can't cover it up.
In terms of tattoos, some religious groups are against tattoos, Jews and some Christians usually cite Leviticus 19:28—”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.”
The Jews were tattooed with a number by the Nazi's when they were moved to the concentration camps, which is another reason for them to dislike tattoos. Whilst the majority of Sunni Muslims believe tattooing is a sin, and there are other religious perspectives.
In Japanese culture, having tattoos is still linked to the Yakuza and organised crime, and traditionally the Japanese have looked down on tattoos, and in more recent decades gangs in many parts of the world use tatooos as gang symbols.
There are numerous other examples, and it should be noted that not everyone is comfortable around heavily tattooed indidividuals, and more especially those with tattoos on their face, neck and hands, whilst body modifications and jewellery have problems in relation to working in hygenic conditions and in terms of health and safety issues.
I wouldnt want to hand over my credit card to someone that looks like a gangbanger. Someone with a tattoo or 2, or someone with a tasteful nose peircing...ok. would tip well for good service no matter what they look like. But i would probably pay cash, and not use a credit card if they look shady.
Looks can often be deceptive. The boy next door look can also be capable of fraudulent, deceitful, and dishonest ways.
The rule is no tattoos that can be visible while in uniform. As it relates to this thread, presumably the waiter has visible tattoos.
And waiters ain't soldiers. You still undermined your own attempt at a point - the military is becoming MORE, not LESS, permissive when it comes to tattoos. Also your claim was, in part: "Even the military has recently banned visible tattoos(when Obama was president)." Which is completely false. Tattoos below the wrist and above the neck have ALWAYS been a no-no, to the best of my knowledge. They certainly were when I enlisted in '98.
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You don't work with customers. I highly doubt anyone who is in public-relations or who interfaces with customers or clients is allowed to have visible tattoos. Also, did you get the sleeve tattoo before or after you were hired(not to say that I trust your answer anyway)?
Bzzzzzt. Wrong, again. I'm sitting on site at a customer location right now, and have been here M-F every week for the past 2+ years. I see the customer, to include leadership, literally every day. Before this project I was on site at the same customer M-F for 7+ years.
I had a 3/4-sleeve when I got hired ~10 years ago. I only recently got extended down to the wrist. The point being my company still has absolutely no tattoo policy. If you want to hire young IT professionals, you'd better be prepared to deal with some tattoos.
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